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Story of Mattermost: Open-Sourced Competitor to Slack

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Re: Story of Mattermost: Open-Sourced Competitor to Slack

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The article talks about Hipchat as a competitor but HipChat was shut down by Atlassian and HipChat users were strongly encouraged to adopt Slack: https://www.atlassian.com/partnerships/slack

Just for clarity, Hipchat users were strongly encouraged to move to Slack because slack purchased Hipchat from Atlassian.

Re: Story of Mattermost: Open-Sourced Competitor to Slack

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post #8

The article talks about Hipchat as a competitor but HipChat was shut down by Atlassian and HipChat users were strongly encouraged to adopt Slack: https://www.atlassian.com/partnerships/slack

> HipChat was shut down by Atlassian

Not entirely accurate. It's was bought by Slack, and then shut down.

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post #4

I like that Mattermost is written in Go and can deploy on-prem with Docker. Those are two huge points for MM over Slack IMO.

For anyone looking to give it a try, here is a Dockerized version of Mattermost: https://github.com/mattermost/mattermost-docker Very straightforward and easy to set up.

This is one of the reasons I love docker, for personal use it makes experimenting with new projects soooo easy.

Plus I have a simple traefik + compose setup so I can easily have it all automatically routed with a subdomain and https.

I might recommend something more robust for businesses in production but man is it easy. Want to try node-red? Done. Want to destroy - and it's gone, no need to futz around with dependencies.

Re: Story of Mattermost: Open-Sourced Competitor to Slack

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I have a small team, but about a year ago, we deployed Mattermost on our K8s cluster using their Helm chart and I have been very pleased with the performance and stability. We never looked back at slack. I have not had to fiddle with the configuration at all since deploying it. It just works. And that is also considering that to save costs, I launched it on preemptible instances which go down usually once every 24 hours. Mattermost recovers and reboots flawlessly every time.

Re: Story of Mattermost: Open-Sourced Competitor to Slack

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We've been using Hipchat for years at $work. There's very little is say is "good" about it, it was just the best option at the time as it needed to be self-hosted.

Mattermost is being trialled now, pasting code doesn't seem a lot better, but the overall experience is.

As a place that likes Go/Docker it has potential for us.

Re: Story of Mattermost: Open-Sourced Competitor to Slack

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This space is downright awful.

20+ years ago corporate IT was concerned about the phone on my desk (how quaint).

They put one there on the back of a PBX.

They put in a system that was LOCAL for local needs and accessed the public network when it needed to.

It worked because it was built on the back of a proven standard (telephone).

We don't have a working chat standard, and it shows and we need to fix it.

Re: Story of Mattermost: Open-Sourced Competitor to Slack

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post #8

The article talks about Hipchat as a competitor but HipChat was shut down by Atlassian and HipChat users were strongly encouraged to adopt Slack: https://www.atlassian.com/partnerships/slack

Another thing that happened is GitHub acquired both Gitter and Spectrum. Gitter deprecated its mobile app. Spectrum's founder has been working on other stuff at GitHub. Microsoft has Teams so that might have something to do with it.

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post #8

The article talks about Hipchat as a competitor but HipChat was shut down by Atlassian and HipChat users were strongly encouraged to adopt Slack: https://www.atlassian.com/partnerships/slack

> HipChat was shut down by Atlassian Not entirely accurate. It's was bought by Slack, and then shut down.

Didn't they just buy the userbase? I don't think they bought the technology - they also made a lot of devs redundant after the purchase?

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This space is downright awful. 20+ years ago corporate IT was concerned about the phone on my desk (how quaint). They put one there on the back of a PBX. They put in a system that was LOCAL for local needs and accessed the public network when it needed to. It worked because it was built on the back of a proven standard (telephone). We don't have a working chat standard, and it shows and we need to fix it.

> We don't have a working chat standard, and it shows and we need to fix it.

IRC works pretty well.

The only thing I sometimes miss is history, but... in some ways that's not a bad thing, and could be added without too much trouble.

Slack has history because Slack wants you to live in it. No history emphasizes that chat is ephemeral and something to tune in and out. Use email or something else for more permanent discussions.

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