Hope they bring the new tech over to the G502 (basically a wired version of the Performance MX suitable for work and gaming).
Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown
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Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown
#22Regarding Logitech Mice, I have the Anywhere MX and the Anywhere MX 2S here. I rarely used the old AMX but still, I got a defective left button switch after about 5 years in which I used it probably less than 500 hours total. Changing the switch is needlessly cumbersome, you have to remove rubber pads and battery stickers (which can't really be removed without destroying them). But the AMX feels solid and the on/off switch also functions as a protector for the laser. You can also store the USB receiver between the batteries.
The AMX 2S is an absolute downgrade: Much cheaper build quality, no more protection for the laser, no user removable battery. The old AMX came with a leather pouch for transportation, the AMX 2S doesn't. On top of that, the Bluetooth connection of the AMX 2S is terrible. I have frequent minute long disconnects from my MBP at 20cm distance. Sometimes it won't connect at all. And the battery doesn't last as long as the rechargeable batteries I put in my AMX 1.
Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown
#23Look at that beautiful replaceable battery :)
My Logitech G700s has a AA NiMH battery in an easily replaceable door, no need to open the mouse. The battery still charges over USB if you have the mouse wired, and switches to wireless when that's unplugged. I like it a lot, if you run the battery down you can just pop a new one in and put the dead one in the charger. But I assume the one they're using here gives them higher capacity, so it's a trade-off.
They're both excellent mice, I really wish they would combine the best features of both:
- battery life of the mx master
- scrollwheel of the mx master
- multi device of the mx master
- bluetooth of the mx master
- gesture button of the mx master
- extra buttons of the g700
- data-over-usb of the g700
- AA battery support of g700
- on-device memory of g700
Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown
#24I'm glad they changed the scroll wheel–it was arguably the worst part of the first one. I have had one for a few years, and the mechanical part that determines whether the wheel is free spinning or ratcheting has a tendency to slip over time, making the ratchet less effective until it is all gone. The mouse needs to be opened up every few months to poke the part back down. This is not an uncommon problem and I'm glad the mechanism has been changed.
Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown
#25Regarding Logitech Mice, I have the Anywhere MX and the Anywhere MX 2S here. I rarely used the old AMX but still, I got a defective left button switch after about 5 years in which I used it probably less than 500 hours total. Changing the switch is needlessly cumbersome, you have to remove rubber pads and battery stickers (which can't really be removed without destroying them). But the AMX feels solid and the on/off…
I'm on my 9th MX Anywhere(currently on the 2S). They all develop a defective mouse button eventually(it either doesn't click or clicks twice). It's incredible to me that we're now on who knows which iteration of the MX Anywhere and Logitech still uses a crappy 3 cent switch that breaks after 12-18 months. At least their support is somewhat decent and they keep replacing those mice without question every time.
Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown
#26I use the Anywhere MX 2, which is quite good, and would love to try the Master 3, but I mouse left-handed. Would love to see more support from Logitech for this mode, even if it came at a premium.
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#27For those interested, Logitech recently resurrected [1] their most famous mouse. The MX518. At least I was able to now buy it from retailers in Europe :) I love it. Could never get used to the more bulk Logitech mice such as the one in OP. [1] https://www.techpowerup.com/review/logitech-g-mx518/
I had 3 of these mice over the years and each one eventually the cable would go bad/loose, I think including my G5, and I'm no fast twitch fps gamer. Looks like they changed he cable on this new one.
Ironically I switched to the MX series (multiple mx2 and mx2s, home/work) and I absolutely love them apart from the problems I used to have where they'd stutter on every OSX machine I used them on. I haven't had that problem in maybe a year, though. Logitech or OSX BT update maybe.
I can't go back to a non MX scroll wheel. I love it.
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#28Logitech has top quality hardware, but their software is degrading rapidly.
Why does Logitech need to update the mouse software every so often? Installing fresh Windows 10 on a new computer, a popup automatically appears on the bottom-right to download and install Logitech software - without installing anything. This is built-in ads for Windows essentially. Also, Logitech wants us to connect to the internet to create a profile. It nags you constantly.
We need software engineers to push back on these things that are pushed on to them by marketing execs.
Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown
#29Look at that beautiful replaceable battery :)
My Logitech G700s has a AA NiMH battery in an easily replaceable door, no need to open the mouse. The battery still charges over USB if you have the mouse wired, and switches to wireless when that's unplugged. I like it a lot, if you run the battery down you can just pop a new one in and put the dead one in the charger. But I assume the one they're using here gives them higher capacity, so it's a trade-off.
I have to say the battery on my 2 year old MX Master 2S is excellent, it needs charging about once a month. It has helpful LED battery indicators and a software warning - I've always had enough warning that it's never run flat, even though I give it basically no thought.
Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown
#30For those interested, Logitech recently resurrected [1] their most famous mouse. The MX518. At least I was able to now buy it from retailers in Europe :) I love it. Could never get used to the more bulk Logitech mice such as the one in OP. [1] https://www.techpowerup.com/review/logitech-g-mx518/
Mine was an MX510 and mine also broke down after a cable issue... and then the second one after that. I'm not particularly conspiratorial, but that's 3 out of 3 anectoble circumstances.