I don't understand how HN can complain about Google sucking up data and rarely if ever mention LassPass's terms of service which basically flat out state they share your info to marketers. Effectively they appear to be making money by looking at all the sites you log into via LassPass. If you're using their browser plugin I can only guess, given their Terms of Service, that they're spying on all pages, not just pages…
> Why would anyone want a password manager with this privacy policy? Why would anyone want a cloud based, proprietary, non-free, non-oss password manager is what I really want to know.
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#202I don't understand how HN can complain about Google sucking up data and rarely if ever mention LassPass's terms of service which basically flat out state they share your info to marketers. Effectively they appear to be making money by looking at all the sites you log into via LassPass. If you're using their browser plugin I can only guess, given their Terms of Service, that they're spying on all pages, not just pages…
> Why would anyone want a password manager with this privacy policy? Why would anyone want a cloud based, proprietary, non-free, non-oss password manager is what I really want to know.
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#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
A 4.3 billion USD valuation at exit is not all bad news I'd say. Better a deal at 4.3 billion than none at 5.5. I'd be laughing all the way to the bank with an exit like that and not worry too much about what could have been.
LogMeIn is a public company. Almost 90% of anyone who bought shares between mid-2016 and early 2019 probably saw a negative return from this because $86/share is still below the price it was at during that time. If this was a private company/startup, of course you'd be laughing all the way to the bank. Not so if you were a public investor in LogMeIn. Far from it.
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#204Bitwarden is a nice alternative. And you can self-host the server part if you want. edit: LastPass is owned by LogMeIn, that's why I mention this alternative.
I'm a +1 on BitWarden, I moved over pretty early on (paid account is only $10/yr) due to their fantastic migration page telling me point blank "LastPass may screw up special characters exporting your data" and lo and behold, my initial export had a bunch of HTML entities injected just like they said. That disclosure/warning sold me right then and there: https://help.bitwarden.com/article/import-from-lastpass/
LastPass started as $1/month, which I thought was a great deal. I started using it in 2011, and never really paid attention to the fee.
Then, it got bought by LogMeIn, and in 2017 they upped the price to $2/month. Last year they upped it to $3/month ($39..that's when I noticed the charge). That's right: for 6 years it was one price, which tripled in 2 years without any enhancements as far as I could tell.
Needless to say, this will be my last year with their product. I'm using KeePass2 locally on my devices, and it seems to do what I need.
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#205I don't understand how HN can complain about Google sucking up data and rarely if ever mention LassPass's terms of service which basically flat out state they share your info to marketers. Effectively they appear to be making money by looking at all the sites you log into via LassPass. If you're using their browser plugin I can only guess, given their Terms of Service, that they're spying on all pages, not just pages…
> Why would anyone want a password manager with this privacy policy? Why would anyone want a cloud based, proprietary, non-free, non-oss password manager is what I really want to know.
Former reputation and inertia. I use it, and when I started it seemed to have the best reputation for ease of use. I also recall that its security model was publicly endorsed by quite a few people who looked at it closely. I only use it for "less important" sites, which basically means everything that isn't a primary email account or an investment website. For those, I use 2FA whenever possible and memorize random passwords [1].
I've been interested in switching since LastPass was bought by LogMeIn, but it's never been a high enough priority for me to actually spend the time to search for another tool.
[1] when memorization gets to be too much, I split the passwords in half: a common half I memorize, and a unique half I write down on paper.
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#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
They primarily sell backup software, and they show the occasional ad to you in the app.
If the business model for a piece of software is ads I will not be using that software.
Anyway, no one is forcing you to use it, but it seems a reasonable free choice for now (teamviewer and splashtop, for example, don't allow free commercial use...and commercial means connecting to your own work laptop, not just using it directly for money making activities like paid support.)
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#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
They did however take $200 million in VC funding in November: https://blog.1password.com/accel-partnership/
According to Accel that was more about the contacts offered by Accel, with a nice side effect of getting lots of news coverage for a $200 million series A.
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I agree. I have around 500 computers under management, finally left them for Teamviewer after LMI's price tripled and their features halved (or worse). I ran it mostly from Linux, which they seemed to be withdrawing support for.
I wish Teamviewer has a small business pricing model. I love their product. However, I only have ~ 70 clients I need to support at a 501c3 school. Their cost are still too high for us.