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Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud

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Re: Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud

#172

It's crazy what Google is willing to kill. I mean if GCloud gets shut down, what hope is there for Stadia?

There isn’t. Anyone who bought Stadia either doesn’t care about losing their purchases or is deluding themselves.

Re: Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud

#173

Even prior to this supposed leak, it would be really difficult as a developer to build anything reliant on Google's technology stack. There is a huge number of killed projects; abandoned platforms; and projects like maps where low/ no fees have become prohibitively expensive. Building atop Google is betting the farm on a fickle master.

And no offense to the Google team, but they are just awful at UI. I cannot imagine using anything Google related to manage complex hosting scenarios.

Re: Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud

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post #144

AWS is unassailable as number one, but Azure is more fragile than they might appear in their #2 position. They use their Office online revenue to boost their numbers (EDIT: apparently they don't do that anymore) , and their utilization is probably lower than the competition because they rely heavily on bundling new cloud services into legacy contracts at renewal to reach their targets. So lots of Office / Outlook / A…

This comment is way out of date, Microsoft started reporting O365 revenue separately from Azure revenue years ago.

Re: Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud

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post #144

AWS is unassailable as number one, but Azure is more fragile than they might appear in their #2 position. They use their Office online revenue to boost their numbers (EDIT: apparently they don't do that anymore) , and their utilization is probably lower than the competition because they rely heavily on bundling new cloud services into legacy contracts at renewal to reach their targets. So lots of Office / Outlook / A…

> So lots of Office / Outlook / AD / Windows Server customers are getting hundreds of thousands of thousands of dollars worth of Azure that they’re not using

Sounds like an arbitrage opportunity. Have tons of unused Azure credits that were forced on you? We'll happily use them up and pay you back a fraction of that credit.

Re: Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud

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post #144

AWS is unassailable as number one, but Azure is more fragile than they might appear in their #2 position. They use their Office online revenue to boost their numbers (EDIT: apparently they don't do that anymore) , and their utilization is probably lower than the competition because they rely heavily on bundling new cloud services into legacy contracts at renewal to reach their targets. So lots of Office / Outlook / A…

I don't think it's dreadful (but maybe no. 3) and I think Microsoft are the best out of the 3 at Enterprise sales. Google prob the worst of the 3 in that regard (and no. 1 with stack).

Re: Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud

#178
For what it's worth, I've had nothing but positive experiences with GCP plus TFRC: https://www.tensorflow.org/tfrc

(If I had negative experiences, believe me, I'd be the first to point them out. Just a happy user.)

There are a few annoying aspects of GCP, but the complexity seems roughly equal to AWS. Both have their pain points.

The $300 free credit is immensely helpful. I hope Google keeps it.

Re: Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud

#179
The thread is mostly concentrating on the negatives here. I'm hoping that GCP will offer some incentives for the next 3 years that I could take advantage of to help my side gig grow on the cheap! If they die in 3 years, well I don't rally care as I have no clue if I'll have a business in the next 12 month.

Of course, this article does say "The Google unit, which sells computing services to big companies" with emphasis on "big", but maybe there will be some trickle down for the small fry amongst it all.

Re: Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud

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post #15

I can't imagine a more damaging leak for Google Cloud. A company that's already notorious for abandoning projects now has a public date for when they'll abandon cloud. How could anyone in their right mind start building on GCP? They may as well shut it down today.

How about the leak where they were debating killing it off?

I was thinking of both of those (considering killing it + the 2023 deadline) as a single leak.
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