Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by Rondom » Tue, Dec 17, 2019, 4:52 PM UTC

Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown
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Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by cmer » Tue, Dec 17, 2019, 6:06 PM UTC

I've been using the 2S for a while and just bought the MX 3 because I needed an extra mouse.

They managed to improve an already near-perfect mouse. I just love the 3. Probably not worth ditching your 2S for, but nonetheless, a superb upgrade. I always felt the thumb buttons were awkward on the 2S and that has been rectified. The magnetic wheel is also really nice to use.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by nwah1 » Tue, Dec 17, 2019, 6:17 PM UTC

cmer wrote: post #2

I've been using the 2S for a while and just bought the MX 3 because I needed an extra mouse. They managed to improve an already near-perfect mouse. I just love the 3. Probably not worth ditching your 2S for, but nonetheless, a superb upgrade. I always felt the thumb buttons were awkward on the 2S and that has been rectified. The magnetic wheel is also really nice to use.

Yes, the thumb buttons seem much better. USB-C is an upgrade.

Only thing that is missing is a wireless charging. Some competitors use Qi charging or a special mousepad, so there's never a need to plug it in.

In 2010, Logitech released a solar-powered keyboard called the K750. Now that batteries and PV cells are improving, and low energy wireless technology is improving, I bet this would be less terrible.

Also in 2010, RCA invented an "Airenergy" device that could harvest ambient wifi signals for use as a power source.

I imagine some combination of the above technologies could eliminate cables from peripherals entirely.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Dec 17, 2019, 6:18 PM UTC

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Post by fuckyah » Tue, Dec 17, 2019, 6:26 PM UTC

As owner of the 2s, its a pitty how bad the product is acutally made. The software is so poor, there's been a bug for years, which leads to the mouse forgetting its programmed buttons when connected via bluetooth.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by jandrese » Tue, Dec 17, 2019, 6:28 PM UTC

nwah1 wrote: post #3

cmer wrote: post #2

I've been using the 2S for a while and just bought the MX 3 because I needed an extra mouse. They managed to improve an already near-perfect mouse. I just love the 3. Probably not worth ditching your 2S for, but nonetheless, a superb upgrade. I always felt the thumb buttons were awkward on the 2S and that has been rectified. The magnetic wheel is also really nice to use.

Yes, the thumb buttons seem much better. USB-C is an upgrade. Only thing that is missing is a wireless charging. Some competitors use Qi charging or a special mousepad, so there's never a need to plug it in. In 2010, Logitech released a solar-powered keyboard called the K750. Now that batteries and PV cells are improving, and low energy wireless technology is improving, I bet this would be less terrible. Also in 2010…

The power density on WiFi is minuscule. FCC Regulations mean you can transmit at a max of 300mW only, and the power you receive is affected by the Inverse Square Law on top of that, so total delivered power to your device is fractions of a mW unless your wireless router is right next to the router. Even then the entire process tends to be rather inefficient on top of that so the math probably doesn't work out.

The Qi mousepad makes a lot more sense.

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by deanclatworthy » Tue, Dec 17, 2019, 6:32 PM UTC

For those interested, Logitech recently resurrected [1] their most famous mouse. The MX518. At least I was able to now buy it from retailers in Europe :) I love it. Could never get used to the more bulk Logitech mice such as the one in OP.

[1] https://www.techpowerup.com/review/logitech-g-mx518/

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by Navarr » Tue, Dec 17, 2019, 6:33 PM UTC

I hope they bring some of the newer improvements and more of the MX Master features to the MX Vertical.

I've found that I really appreciate the different ergonomics of a vertical mouse, but I do miss my side wheel and unlocking scroll

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by Unklejoe » Tue, Dec 17, 2019, 6:34 PM UTC

Look at that beautiful replaceable battery :)

Re: Logitech MX Master 3 vs. 2S Teardown

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Post by wlesieutre » Tue, Dec 17, 2019, 6:38 PM UTC

Unklejoe wrote: post #9

Look at that beautiful replaceable battery :)

My Logitech G700s has a AA NiMH battery in an easily replaceable door, no need to open the mouse.

The battery still charges over USB if you have the mouse wired, and switches to wireless when that's unplugged.

I like it a lot, if you run the battery down you can just pop a new one in and put the dead one in the charger. But I assume the one they're using here gives them higher capacity, so it's a trade-off.