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Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud

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Re: Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud

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Post by cure »

zelly wrote: post #93
harryh wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're a startup you should seriously consider colocation for as many of your workloads as possible The vast majority of startups do not succeed or fail based upon their ability to control their datacenter spend. They succeed or fail based upon their ability to attract customers and grow revenue. Colocating and managing your own servers instead of taking advantage of the ease of using the cloud will only be a dist…

The person you have to hire to manage that would cost 10x a public cloud bill

I don't think you quite appreciate how much (some) companies (including startups) spend on public clouds.

Re: Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud

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Post by samspenc »

ar_lan wrote: post #134
dyeje wrote: post #87

It would be the ultimate Google move to sunset GCP. Literally no product they provide is safe.

"Search" will no longer be supported beginning January 1, 2021.

I know you said that in jest, but in all seriousness, I think search and ads will definitely be around since they are the #1 player and making boatloads of money from search and ads.

Google seems to have a tendency to shut down products that meet the following criteria:

[1] Free products that could have millions or billions of users, but no revenue or not enough revenue to justify a team working on it [2] Free or paid products in which Google is NOT #1

I am as shocked as everyone else that Google would consider shutting down GCP if it's not #2 by 2023. I would have thought they would treat enterprise business very differently from their consumer business ... but I guess not.

I am also extremely skeptical they'll be able to make it to #2 over the next 4 years. So I guess we might as well say goodbye to GCP at this point.

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Post by johnnycab »

The analysis from the Gartner Magic Quadrant circa July 2019, states some of it's concerns/cautions with regards to cloud based offerings from Alibaba v Google, which not only highlights how far ahead the top two contenders really are in the race, but also set to continue their meteoric rise.

"Alibaba Cloud earns 90% of its revenue in China and has not appreciably grown its enterprise customer base outside of China. Alibaba has limited capabilities in terms of an MSP ecosystem, third-party enterprise software integration and operational tools; and small global field teams limit adoption outside of China."

"Google demonstrates an immaturity of process and procedures when dealing with enterprise accounts, which can make the company difficult to transact with at times. This can be attributed to its nascent focus on the enterprise market. The immaturity of process is most pronounced in areas such as contract negotiation, discounting, independent software vendor (ISV) licensing, integration with enterprise systems and support."

Re: Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud

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Post by setr »

xvector wrote: post #140
jfoster wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's so stupid that they've got this reputation now. A lot of the things they've killed could've instead been sold/spun off instead. Shutting down successful services that are not successful enough by Google's standards has given them a bad rep at the same time as destroying value. Reader could've been a successful company on its own for sure, for example. I wasn't a user of it, but there was enough people who loved…

It’s a well-deserved reputation. I’m glad it’s sticking

He meant it was stupid that Google let itself gain this reputation; it was easily avoidable

Re: Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud

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Post by rconti »

Shakahs wrote: post #28

I'm astounded that they would seriously consider closing GCP after committing so much time, money, and effort into building it. Every time there's a GCP story on HN commenters say "I won't use it because Google can just pull the plug." I thought this opinion was silly as GCP is the #3 cloud provider in the world, not a free service like Reader. Guess I was wrong, nothing is safe. Google wants #1 or nothing at all.

Yikes. Seriously making me question my initiatives as well.

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Post by tuwtuwtuwtuw »

zapita wrote: post #144

AWS is unassailable as number one, but Azure is more fragile than they might appear in their #2 position. They use their Office online revenue to boost their numbers (EDIT: apparently they don't do that anymore) , and their utilization is probably lower than the competition because they rely heavily on bundling new cloud services into legacy contracts at renewal to reach their targets. So lots of Office / Outlook / A…

> Azure’s technology stack is dreadful.

Can you describe what you are referring to here?

I've only used AWS a bit but it's been littered with WTFs.

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