These executives have no one to blame for erosion of trust in Google but themselves. Here is a company that appears to be driven by transient market share in their decisions while appointing itself the caretaker of the open internet and the dictator of open standards.
Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud
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Re: Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Now that we know they're not invested in a Google cloud beyond 2023 I have no clue how anyone could arrive at that interpretation. What exactly let you to that conclusion?
From two sources. 1) The article. > The Google unit, which sells computing services to big companies, is under pressure from top management to pass Microsoft or Amazon—currently first and second, respectively, in cloud market share—or risk losing funding. 2) How Google treats all of its other "underperforming" products.
If it's profitable why do they care if it passes Amazon or Microsoft?
Re: Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud
#73If they pour all of their efforts into customer experience, maybe they can stay in the game. I personally am terrified of using Google Cloud. I'm afraid something will go wrong and I won't be able to talk to a human. I've heard so many stories about the "stone wall" that is Google customer support. Also, I'm afraid the rug will get pulled out from under me if I decide to go all in given their history of axing project…
Google sure is nowhere near as capable or even willing as Microsoft or Amazon; heck even IBM through Red Hat could prove a much better steward for its enterprise customers.
But I think the morality is to never put all your eggs in the same basket, because any of them can fail for external reasons — e.g. horror stories about people locked out of any service because payments failed due to some stupid action by their bank; months to fix issues... don't be that guy/business with a single point of failure.
So, contingency plans, and a healthy distribution of your flows.
Have several banks/cards, several clouds, front load balance with a cross-platform HA solution, then for everything behind peg providers against each other; optimize for cost or convenience or whatever.
This is the resilient way; and possibly even antifragile as you develop new synergies in this meta-space. It also sends a message that interop is value to you, to the market.
When you operate at that level, there may be room for GC in your system — typically where you can afford it to fail / disappear but it's better/cheaper as long as it lives. You're already ready for the day it dies, because you make that risk assessment a parameter in your arch.
Re: Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud
#74The clock is ticking for Google Cloud. The Google unit, which sells computing services to big companies, is under pressure from top management to pass Microsoft or Amazon—currently first and second, respectively, in cloud market share—or risk losing funding. That should give any Enterprise thinking about going all in on GCP a warm and fuzzy. When I say how can you trust Google for your infrastructure seeing how they…
Almost seems like it would have people looking for the eject button.
Man my firm was looking into going ahead GCP and now this
Re: Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud
#75If they pour all of their efforts into customer experience, maybe they can stay in the game. I personally am terrified of using Google Cloud. I'm afraid something will go wrong and I won't be able to talk to a human. I've heard so many stories about the "stone wall" that is Google customer support. Also, I'm afraid the rug will get pulled out from under me if I decide to go all in given their history of axing project…
Im also wondering what “best” or “winning” means in this context. Theres no way they’ll surpass AWS in revenue in 3 years so whats the dimension of quality here?
Re: Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud
#76I have a hard time believing articles from sources with no track record making bold claims. Seriously, "theinformation.com" and hardly anyone is skeptical?
The Information is always light years ahead of other tech sources. Probably the #1 tech reporting outlet. So yes, no one is skeptical.
Edit: noticed you work on Google. So that about explains it.
Re: Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud
#77Even prior to this supposed leak, it would be really difficult as a developer to build anything reliant on Google's technology stack. There is a huge number of killed projects; abandoned platforms; and projects like maps where low/ no fees have become prohibitively expensive.
Building atop Google is betting the farm on a fickle master.
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#78There is NO WAY to retire Google Cloud...
This is the ultimate suicide you need to take to destroy public trust, once and for all.
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#79I still lay claim that google is not hiring the talent that they think they are or claim to be. With such huge budgets and failed product after failed product one has to wonder what is the genesis of their failings. Having met countless arrogant but mediocre engineers that leave Google after four years, I will bring up the old algorithms only hiring nets bad employees with good memories.
Re: Google Brass Set 2023 as Deadline to Beat Amazon, Microsoft in Cloud
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
From two sources. 1) The article. > The Google unit, which sells computing services to big companies, is under pressure from top management to pass Microsoft or Amazon—currently first and second, respectively, in cloud market share—or risk losing funding. 2) How Google treats all of its other "underperforming" products.
> 1) The article. That only means that the team's head is on the chopping block. That's all. > 2) How Google treats all of its other "underperforming" products. This assertion is utterly absurd as you're describing the world's third largest cloud provider, and thus one of the dominant players, of being "underperforming" and justifying pulling the plug on a 8 billion-dolar a year business.
Google is far from the world’s “third largest provider”
https://www.techrepublic.com/article/public-cloud-market-sha...
As far as the manager “being on the chopping block” the article talks about “losing funding”.
$8 billion in revenue means nothing. Is it profitable?
This is the same company that left an entire city’s streets in disarray after abandoning Google Fiber.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/02/googl...