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Re: Amazon is now delivering half its own packages, rivaling FedEx and UPS

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Post by colejohnson66 » Tue, Dec 17, 2019, 5:14 PM UTC

uoaei wrote: post #39

snowwrestler wrote: post #30

Amazon is pulling a fast one here, and The Verge is letting them get away with it. Here’s the key part: > it’s also been building out a network of its own delivery drivers under the Amazon Flex platform, which is a kind of on-demand contract network similar to Uber and food delivery companies like DoorDash. So, in fact Amazon is not delivering their own packages, they are employing an ad-hoc network of local truckers…

Some of the most unsafe driving I've seen is from those Amazon Sprinter vans. I blame Amazon more than the driver.

Are you sure that’s not partly confirmation bias’ fault?

Re: Amazon is now delivering half its own packages, rivaling FedEx and UPS

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Post by colejohnson66 » Tue, Dec 17, 2019, 5:18 PM UTC

masonic wrote: post #10

post_break wrote: post #3

I'm just happy because 9 times out of 10 USPS would mark my stuff as delivered and then deliver it the next day. I have yet to have an Amazon delivery go bad besides when they try to deliver to my work after 5pm. I recognize people have huge issues with amazon delivery drivers but my experience has been better than USPS.

I had an urgent Amazon order for a replacement laptop for which delivery was promised by December 11th. They claimed it was delivered and signed for after 10PM, when the entire building was closed, unattended, and inaccessible. That was December 11 2017 . It never did arrive.

Did you ever get a refund or at least a second replacement?

Re: Amazon is now delivering half its own packages, rivaling FedEx and UPS

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Post by jjeaff » Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 12:27 AM UTC

jberm123 wrote: post #96

jacobolus wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If we care about workers and corporate behavior we need to change the law (and elect/appoint legislators and political executives and law enforcement agents and judges who will follow/enforce existing laws) to allow workers to unionize, increase the minimum wage, enforce fairer working hours, safer working conditions, better worker protections from fraud and theft, etc. If Amazon wants to run a delivery network it sh…

This sounds contradictory to me: If Amazon wants to run a delivery network it should [be an even larger monopoly] ... Federal antitrust action against monopolies and monopsonies would be helpful too.

Requiring them to follow contractor vs w2 employee rules is not making them any bigger or smaller. Frankly, I'm not sure how they are skirting the law thus far. I'm not even sure they own the trucks that have Amazon branding on them. I have read some claims that the subcontractors have to buy or lease the vehicles from Amazon.

Re: Amazon is now delivering half its own packages, rivaling FedEx and UPS

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Post by detaro » Sat, Dec 21, 2019, 12:40 PM UTC

Kovah wrote: post #23

The same happens here, but DHL is the major player being replaced and it makes total sense for both Amazon and its customers. To be honest, since my first delivery made directly by Amazon, until now, I never missed a single package. It was delivered on time, most times on the day after the order. DHL on the other side has horrible drivers that would just drop off the package at the next post station, instead of knock…

Always really depends on your local micro-location. Here, Amazon drivers behave a lot worse, and DHL works fine, and has the comfortable fallback of the Packstation.