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People do similar things quite often at Google and I haven't heard any of them getting fired before.
Security team members modifying their tools that are deployed to a large number of employees for fun ?
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Did you read what the extension is for?
It feels like a lot of astro-turfing going on here. Why would any sane person be against unions?
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Did you not read the part where she did, where she followed the process by the book and it was approved? Or did you just have your mind made up to decide to side with Google instead?
This was the process: "the standard approval process, which requires two co-workers to greenlight changes" In my company, I could put in travel orders to let me go to and from Hawaii on the company dime, have a vacation, and have my supervisor approve (which is following the standard process), but doing that should get me in a lot of trouble and/or fired.
You followed company policy, but your supervisor didn't.
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> I don't feel like my employer is a rival or an enemy; I feel like they are a partner in our mutual goal to make a lot of money [...] it's not hard to understand why many of us feel no draw to unions. It's hard for me to understand when you look at other similar industries. We're not talking about blue collar unions here: we're talking about white collar unions. They're very different. Take Hollywood as an example.…
Aren't those industry wide unions whose main purpose is to set wage floors because there are so many people desperately trying to get into the industry that without them, employee conditions would be terrible for those just starting out? I don't think that is a problem for programmers and it is way different than a company specific union. If you want to start an industry wide programmer union, by all means, start one…
The WGA was grandfathered in with the law, but you’re not allowed in the US to create sector wide programmers union. It is cool to imagine what you could accomplish with sector-wide software strikes though.
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Really? So if I hire you to email out my monthly company statement it’s reasonable that you add some of your own thoughts to said email.
It wasn't her thoughts it was company policy, or to be specific it's required by law that this notice to be posted in the workplace. It's was her personal judgment that it should be posted in a chrome add-on rather than only by poster like is typical in most workplaces. But assuming her job was to maintain an add-on that informs employees of company policy, and assuming her job typically lets her act with personal ju…
Those are well defined roles. Specially in a company of that size.
She didn’t just make a judgement call. She went way outside her role imo.
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It's more like posting a reminder of the current legal minimum wage—and only showed up, apparently, if the user visited the site of a consulting firm Google hired to help them figure out how to avoid unionization. A great and entirely "professional" thing to do? Nah, but hardly worth the vigorous harumphing and tut-tutting it's receiving. It's not like she contributed code to Amp or spearheaded putting ads inline wit…
> A great and entirely "professional" thing to do? Nah So unprofessional?
From the engineer's medium post: > For example, someone changed the default desktop wallpaper during the walkout last year so that the Linux penguin was holding a protest sign. The company has never reacted aggressively in response to a notification such as this in the past. It’s always been a celebrated part of the culture. I suppose this was her mistake: ""It's always been a celebrated part of the culture" Google c…
It’s sort of ridiculous to think any boss would approve this, which is why she did it the way she did it in the first place.
But again, law of the jungle and all that. If I were her boss and she came to me for approval, I also would get approval from my boss and my bosses' boss.
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There's a lot of other reasons stuff is expensive in NY. Europe is heavily unionized and somehow they still manage to build subways at a lot less than $1 billion per mile.
Unions are a big, big reason stuff is SO expensive in NY. They have to have 4 times as many employees doing construction as in Europe, for instance. Europe doesn't have this problem because they have good unions. We can't have those in America. I really don't know why, but that's just how it is.
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Which is pretty dumb. The most important threat to a typical office dev computer is not console access, it's wayward processes and network traffic. What's more secure, a locked console (that protects you from ~1 local people that you know) or something like Little Snitch, which protects you from ~10e6 people you don't know?
I've worked in security for years. This isn't really true. The majority of all security breaches are caused by internal threats, not by some hacker group breaching your firewall. Malicious actors tailgating someone into an office and stealing an unlocked laptop, or an unlocked laptop being stolen while at a coffee shop or airport, is also a very common occurrence I've seen at most of my clients.
No, my main concern is ongoing, persistent, secret access to my machine, particularly delivered via a malicious package. Something like Little Snitch is going to make it much harder for such an attack to work. Locking your machine, 2FA, PKI, etc is not going to help with that threat at all. And I have reason to believe it's more common than people think.
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And firing workers for unionizing is political and illegal. https://www.nlrb.gov/how-we-work/national-labor-relations-ac...
She wasn’t being fired for “unionizing”. She was being fired for abusing her access.