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Engineer says Google fired her for notifying co-workers of right to organize

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Re: Engineer says Google fired her for notifying co-workers of right to organize

#51
I see contradictory impressions about what this article is even saying.

My contribution is that it’s foolish to react too quickly to a story like this.

If the headline were accurate, it would be such an obvious own-goal on the part of Google HR, it beggars belief.

I think the wise course is to wait until more details are made public before getting worked up about it.

Re: Engineer says Google fired her for notifying co-workers of right to organize

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Did no one read the article? > Spiers, 21, said she went through the standard approval process, which requires two co-workers to greenlight changes, before updating the Chrome browser extension. Another source at Google familiar with the update approval process confirmed to NBC news that those two approvals are standard practice for a browser extension update. She did it exactly according to internal policy. The exte…

I doubt thats the spirit of the rule. I would no more want that injected into my browser than any other political message.

It's quite a stretch to call this a political issue.

Re: Engineer says Google fired her for notifying co-workers of right to organize

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>Kathryn Spiers, who worked as a security engineer, updated an internal Chrome browser extension so that each time Google employees visited the website of IRI Consultants — the Troy, Michigan, firm that Google hired this year amid a groundswell of labor activism at the company — they would see a pop-up message that read: “Googlers have the right to participate in protected concerted activities.” You should get fired…

Did you not read the part where she did, where she followed the process by the book and it was approved? Or did you just have your mind made up to decide to side with Google instead?

Even if she followed the rules that doesn't mean she should be absolved of guilt. You can follow the rules and submit a PR, have 2 code reviews and plenty of tests, if you brake production then you can still be fired for incompentency.

The fact that 2 reviewers approved her change doesn't mean that she has the right to send notifications like this through a browser extension.

Re: Engineer says Google fired her for notifying co-workers of right to organize

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you not read the part where she did, where she followed the process by the book and it was approved? Or did you just have your mind made up to decide to side with Google instead?

I'm honestly a little surprised (and worried) about all the commenters who argue Google is in the right here.

People love to make excuses for their bosses because they believe their interests are aligned :(

Re: Engineer says Google fired her for notifying co-workers of right to organize

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you not read the part where she did, where she followed the process by the book and it was approved? Or did you just have your mind made up to decide to side with Google instead?

I'm honestly a little surprised (and worried) about all the commenters who argue Google is in the right here.

Of course Google is right. She happened to get two coworkers to approve what she was doing.

If I got a manager who I was friends with to approve my purchase of a fully decked out $53K Mac Pro so I could finally use Slack at a decent speed when I am working from home, wouldn’t you think there was something fishy?

Re: Engineer says Google fired her for notifying co-workers of right to organize

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post #20

Did no one read the article? > Spiers, 21, said she went through the standard approval process, which requires two co-workers to greenlight changes, before updating the Chrome browser extension. Another source at Google familiar with the update approval process confirmed to NBC news that those two approvals are standard practice for a browser extension update. She did it exactly according to internal policy. The exte…

That sounds like a code review, which is not the same as project/management approval for the 'feature' at all.

The internal extension displays pop-ups when you visit particular sites. All she did was add a new pop-up and associated site to the list.

Re: Engineer says Google fired her for notifying co-workers of right to organize

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The article is confusing. She says she was fired for doing one thing. Google says she did something else (modified Chromium without permission). Does she deny their claims, or is her statement just spin? Given just her quotes you would think that she was fired for literally telling coworkers that they have a right to organize.

Did you not read the part where she did, where she followed the process by the book and it was approved? Or did you just have your mind made up to decide to side with Google instead?

Nope, I am not siding with Google, if you'll see my other comments in this thread. It's just not super clear to me that there's agreement on what actually happened here.

Re: Engineer says Google fired her for notifying co-workers of right to organize

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post #5

> Kathryn Spiers, who worked as a security engineer, updated an internal Chrome browser extension so that each time Google employees visited the website of IRI Consultants — the Troy, Michigan, firm that Google hired this year amid a groundswell of labor activism at the company — they would see a pop-up message that read: “Googlers have the right to participate in protected concerted activities.” So basically, the Go…

When a cop pulls speeders but strongly focuses on one demographic group, even though each pull is justified in that the one pulled was violating the law, the pattern that emerges shows a greater level of injustice and the actual reasoning used is quite different than the stated reasoning because the stated reasoning is not consistently being applied.

In this particular case, does Google consistently apply the stated reasoning? Google says it does, the engineer says they don't. Do we just trust Google despite a very long history of corporations taking illegal or unacceptable actions against employees engaging in similar actions, or do we let it go before a court to be decided?

Re: Engineer says Google fired her for notifying co-workers of right to organize

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>Kathryn Spiers, who worked as a security engineer, updated an internal Chrome browser extension so that each time Google employees visited the website of IRI Consultants — the Troy, Michigan, firm that Google hired this year amid a groundswell of labor activism at the company — they would see a pop-up message that read: “Googlers have the right to participate in protected concerted activities.” You should get fired…

You either can't read or you're a shill. Sucks you can't delete HN comments huh.

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