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The falling price of a TV set

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Re: The falling price of a TV set

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Printers didn’t need the spying?

Printers get you on the ink, and the terrible driver software, and maybe an ink subscription. And the support contract.

This is my point: printers started off expensive, then lower costs due to manufacturing efficiencies/scale, but then ultimately drop to effectively $0 due to business models shifting. It's a fair assumption to make that a similar thing would happen to TV's but it doesn't look like it has?

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Can you even get a dumb TV anymore? I found it surprisingly difficult when I replaced mine 2 years ago. So far I've been OK with simply not plugging it into the Internet.

Piggybacking on this, I contemplating the same problem and was wondering whether I could create a new wifi network which can only access hbo go domains and let the TV use that network only. Is something like this possible without any additional device in the loop? Just tweaking the (ISP) router and forget about it?

Probably not. The HN advice always seems to be to use your ISP-provided device only as a modem and plug a separate router into it. I don't know how many people actually do this in practice - probably the same proportion of vim users who actually have Caps Lock remapped to Escape.

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Piggybacking on this, I contemplating the same problem and was wondering whether I could create a new wifi network which can only access hbo go domains and let the TV use that network only. Is something like this possible without any additional device in the loop? Just tweaking the (ISP) router and forget about it?

Probably not. The HN advice always seems to be to use your ISP-provided device only as a modem and plug a separate router into it. I don't know how many people actually do this in practice - probably the same proportion of vim users who actually have Caps Lock remapped to Escape.

Well, I'm doing this but my Caps Lock is mapped to Control. Anyway, you are probably right, there are dozens of us. On the other hand I've seen couple of discussions here around Ubiquity and MicroTik in consumer environments some maybe it's not that rare.

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> Automakers, for example, can now expect to see bigger profits from the loans they make on selling cars than from selling the actual cars I've heard of that. Then I heard dealers will give you a hard time if you want to buy a car right out, some will even run your credit without your permission. I don't have the money to go buy a new car right now, but it's pretty sad that saving up and paying for things is so disco…

My local Ford dealer would not even talk about the price of a used car until filled out paperwork and they ran a credit check without asking.

I hope you walked away. I would.

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> And I dont like having two remote to control my TV. If your devices support HDMI-CEC[1] — my new-ish TV does, as does a Yamaha receiver I purchased several years ago — your Apple TV (and therefore its remote) can control everything. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Electronics_Control

CEC is flaky though. Not everything is compatible. There’s little good documentation. It breaks randomly without obvious causes or predictable fixes. If Apple made a box or a set of them with a proprietary interface that competes with CEC I would buy in a heartbeat. CEC is working well at my house. But for six months earlier this year, the Apple TV remote could no longer power up the sound bar. One day it started wor…

Speaking as someone who has recently been involved with a very wide-scale project using CEC (demo units for a major retailer here in the UK) I concur - CEC is incredibly unreliable.

My project ran on a very limited range of hardware from a well-known high end manufacturer. I imagine it's even worse "in the wild".

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You can get a smart TV and just not connect it to the internet. Even lobotomized like this, they still work fine as normal TVs. You can also get a smart device (Roku, Amazon Fire, etc.) and hook that up to any TV to stream things (including Disney+). You can also just hook that computer up and it would work as well (a TV is just a big monitor with sound). So there is no need to ever "cave", even if you want streaming…

You can also get a smart device (Roku, Amazon Fire, etc.) and hook that up to any TV Why should that device have any less spying or ads?

Thanks, I was starting to think I was going crazy.

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This. A dealer's margins on the cars are razor thin these days. They make the money on financing and servicing. Even if you buy the car in cash, the purchase is one time payment, but after that they have you as a recurring customer for the long run with service costs which is where the money comes in. No wonder modern cars are designed to be as difficult to service as possible by the owner. In my older Fiat I could c…

>The whole auto industry today is a large scale scam where we trade the environment and our health for corporate profits In theory, it should be easy to solve transport within a metro area with low-carbon solutions such as walking, bicycling and public transport. I'm continually amazed by how good public transport and walkability are in some cities outside America. Bicycles also have amazing potential and a few succe…

Biking in a foot of snow, on roads with pot holes large enough to swallow a tire, or that flood, or turn to black ice, is dangerous and sucks. Add the lack of actual bike lanes on all but a few block long stretches and biking becomes a death wish. Sure I can get a studded fat tire bike, and bike down the middle of the lane with dozens of pissed off people behind me honking and screaming at me, but that still doesn't solve the other problem of rampant unprosecuted bike theft in my city. Nor do I have a place to shower once I get to work.

So I'd need two bikes, one with specialized winter tires, that I'm replacing frequently when they get stolen.

Another gym membership to shower at before I go to work.

Better health insurance to lessen the financial blow of the inevitable hit and run.

More time to account for the longer commute. In my case it's 4-6x longer to bike than drive. Time I'm not making any money and time I'm at substantially greater risk of getting seriously injured.

The politics of it certainly do suck. There's too much money pushing for the jobs that our car dependence create.

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I have a 43" Panasonic plasma TV, which has THX certified display panel. Paid about 800USD for it back 2013 I believe. I'd like to replace it with a LCD one, but oh boy how much do the THX certified ones cost - https://www.thx.com/product-finder/

THX is just for sound, right? Why not buy a cheaper TV and a separate certified speaker set?

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Chromecasts may be the best low-key (and low-cast) gadget out there. Which probably means Google will kill it :-/ Just use my tablet, phone, or laptop to put content up on the TV. It makes for a pretty nice digital picture frame too.

luckily Chromecast seems to be an important piece of Stadia, so it should be around for a long while

Do you have a reason to assume that Stadia will be around for a long while?
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