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How Americans Get Out of Credit Card Debt

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Re: How Americans Get Out of Credit Card Debt

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So my question is what about people that aren't in debt, but need help improving their credit score? I had a lot of debt from about 5-10 years ago and it killed my credit score. The debt has all been paid off for a few years, I haven't had credit cards in years, and I still have a few notices from closed accounts that won't fall off for a few years. So I'm currently doing what I can to remove the closed notices and h…

> I haven't had credit cards in years

That raises flags for me, because as far as I know from what I've read, some of the key components of your credit score are 1. length of credit history (i.e. if the average age of your open credit lines is 0, then that's bad) and 2. credit limit (if you have no credit cards, you have no credit.

Certainly having no debt helps, but many of the other things hurt more than they help.

Re: How Americans Get Out of Credit Card Debt

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OT: A blog peeve of mine is when you read a blog and want to visit the home page but can't find the link. Out of years of systematic reflex, I clicked the logo in the upper left, only to get the blog home. After a little link hovering I discovered the "try it out" button goes to the home page, but to me that means sign up, not read more about it. If you're going to use your blog for marketing, make it really easy for visitors to visit the home page. Don't make me think!

Re: How Americans Get Out of Credit Card Debt

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Hey there, thanks for the comment! You are absolutely right that there were about 1.5M bankruptcy filings last year [this number is growing (1)]. Note that we haven't made any claims about the ordering on the graphic, but bankruptcy is an option which is often under-considered, because people are scared of it, and driven by FUD to pursue other options which often have lower success rates. Rod and I have learned a tre…

If the debtor pool varies as widely as you claim, that reinforces something I've been wondering for a while: Is it true that Americans are in debt because they are fiscally irresponsible, or is it because the playing field is tilted? It is hard for me to believe that 33% of all Americans can't grasp the idea of "spend less than you make". Sure, a lot of it is consumer culture / media pressure, etc. But other countrie…

One interesting tidbit: the most popular support request we've received since launching is to make the service available in the US and Canada.

One natural reason that this situation has gotten worse is that the credit card market has become completely saturated (everyone who wants a card has one [almost]). This, combined with relatively easy credit recently has resulted in the card companies marketing to people that they would previously had stayed away from.

We've learned that people often become accustomed to credit at an early point in their lives (college), rely on it for awhile, then don't suffer any explicit repercussions, and so grow accustomed to it until the problem grows and it's too late.

I don't really think it's a 'conspiracy' either, since it's clear what the motivations for all of the involved parties are.

Would love to chat about this more, but I need to tend to the serverz :)

Re: How Americans Get Out of Credit Card Debt

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I got my RFZ invite code the other day and took the 10 minutes it required to get my credit cards in the system and play with its tools.

I found it to be SO much simpler than Mint, which I've just ignored for more than a year now.

With RFZ, I can quickly see that if I stopped using my cards and paid X per month for 3 years, I'm out of debt and am only paying about 15% more over what I owe. Thats not so bad when you consider the alternatives.

Now, I think I underestimated what I can afford to pay, so hopefully I look at my bank account one day and see there's a few extra thousand that I don't need to save and can immediately put that on a card. Feels like I'll be better off much sooner than 3 years.

Mint can do this, I know, but again — the simplicity of the experience of RFZ is top notch.

Re: How Americans Get Out of Credit Card Debt

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The most useful way of thinking of CC debt is how much it INCREASES THE PRICE of what you buy. That nice lunch might cost 20$ if you paid cash, but use your CC and it's really 20$ + the interest you are going to pay. If it's going to take you 4 years to pay off your 20% APR CC debt then that 20$ lunch is really 41$ 50c. PS: That is not to say paying cash for lunch changes the numbers when you are in debt; CC increase…

If you pay it off in full, and get 2% cashback then that lunch cost you $19.60

You know, obviously you are right. But, I think people (especially intelligent HN type people) greatly underestimate how much psychological tricks affect them. I know deep down that spending with credit card is the same as spending with cash. But, I tracked my spending using cards and only withdrawing from ATMs and using cash. I spent about 20% more. And my life didn't feel any better or anything. Now I use credit cards on the big stuff- like travel, transportation costs, and other large ticket items where credit versus cash is unlikely to affect me spending habits. Point is, you get some tiny cash back, but I think for 99% of people you spend more than you get.

Re: How Americans Get Out of Credit Card Debt

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I got my RFZ invite code the other day and took the 10 minutes it required to get my credit cards in the system and play with its tools. I found it to be SO much simpler than Mint, which I've just ignored for more than a year now. With RFZ, I can quickly see that if I stopped using my cards and paid X per month for 3 years, I'm out of debt and am only paying about 15% more over what I owe. Thats not so bad when you c…

Thanks. We would love to hear more about your experience as we continue to make improvements.

Re: How Americans Get Out of Credit Card Debt

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Is their business model subscription based or recommendation (like Mint) based? I don't know if I would trust anything from a company like this if I was already in debt. Usually people already feel screwed over. They should really work on PR and branding so people feel like they can trust then.

Re: How Americans Get Out of Credit Card Debt

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Is their business model subscription based or recommendation (like Mint) based? I don't know if I would trust anything from a company like this if I was already in debt. Usually people already feel screwed over. They should really work on PR and branding so people feel like they can trust then.

Check out our FAQs and Privacy Policy, we try to address this and other issues there: https://www.readyforzero.com/overview/faqs https://www.readyforzero.com/overview/privacy

As a datapoint, since the public launch a few days ago we are already helping people track over $35M in credit card debts. We believe trust is earned not paid for.

Re: How Americans Get Out of Credit Card Debt

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i rang up about 5k in credit card debt. six months ago, i decided to put my nose to the grindstone and get it done.

i paid my last $600 off this morning.

i stopped buying unnecessary shit, stopped eating out all the time, and most importantly, made payments -every- time i possibly could. if i opened my bank account online and had $400 left in checking, i'd put $250 into the card. if i had $200 left, i'd put $100. there are a whole boatload of $50 payments and many even smaller.

just start paying and don't stop until it's gone. pay your bills, stay fed, and whenever you have money left over, move it to your credit card. try to make a small payment every couple days. just focus on that damn number and make it smaller every single opportunity you have until it reads "0".

i also made enough during this period to pay for a trip to jamaica in cash. i only make $39,500 yearly so it's not like i'm hauling in bags of dough, but focusing on my credit card debt also had some interesting side effects - like learning money management and learning how to save WHILE paying down old debts.

it got to the point that i found more joy in moving $50 to my credit card than going out and dropping $50 on drinks over the weekend. it's funny, but all that stuff that i just 'had' to buy before ...... it turns out i didn't. imagine that.

Re: How Americans Get Out of Credit Card Debt

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I got my RFZ invite code the other day and took the 10 minutes it required to get my credit cards in the system and play with its tools. I found it to be SO much simpler than Mint, which I've just ignored for more than a year now. With RFZ, I can quickly see that if I stopped using my cards and paid X per month for 3 years, I'm out of debt and am only paying about 15% more over what I owe. Thats not so bad when you c…

Ditto. I got my invite the other day. I like that it is one place focused on getting my debt down. I paid what felt like a bunch of money the other day, but on RFZ it's clear that it was a drop in the bucket of what I owe in total...

I second that. RFZ is top notch.

Edit: this thread reminded me to check if a trade cleared. Just paid another $800 towards credit card zero. Woot!

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