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2020 Cloud Report: AWS vs. GCP vs. Azure

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Re: 2020 Cloud Report: AWS vs. GCP vs. Azure

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Post by paulddraper »

unreal37 wrote: post #11

They calculated the costs based on 3 years running at the hourly rate. That's kinda weird. How about including multi-year discounts? These are available to everyone. [1] https://azure.microsoft.com/en-ca/pricing/reserved-vm-instan... [2] https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/reserved-instances/ [3] https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/instances/signing-up-c...

> That's kinda weird.

Not really.

On-demand capacity is (a) what the cloud is known for and (b) a reasonable common denominator.

Reservations get a lot more complicated with policies around usage accounting and transferring and selling them.

Obviously there is a lot more available than hourly VPS (reserved, interruptable), but that's a decent benchmark to start with.

Re: 2020 Cloud Report: AWS vs. GCP vs. Azure

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Post by scarface74 »

paulddraper wrote: post #78
scarface74 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You wouldn’t typically run your databases in a cloud environment on your own VMs - you would use a managed service.

I'm still waiting on that managed PostgreSQL 12 service....

Almost....

PostgreSQL 12.0 Now Available in Amazon RDS Database Preview Environment

https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2019/11/postgresq...

Re: 2020 Cloud Report: AWS vs. GCP vs. Azure

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Post by chirau »

adambyrtek wrote: post #31
chirau wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That 10minutemail workaround is easy to block, just require a business domain and a use a verification link.

Like many similar problems, it's a cat and mouse game. For example, it's equally easy to detect adblockers, but they are still really effective.

Cockroach is a DB company. Customer acquisition cost is in the thousands if not tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands.

The steps I mentioned above are what, maybe a few hundred dollars. Trust me, their lead generation pipeline most likely already subscribes to this and utilizes it with minimal concern.

There are plenty of CRM tools that can flag out BS domains and/or low value not worth it domains.

If you are a person who gets by using 10minuteemail, you are not their target market. So will their target demographic.

The extra hop is very necessary for prevalidation. And they will be just fine with it.

You on the other hand, being the cheapskate that you are, have to commit an extra 5 minutes every time you generate these BS emails. Obviously you don't value your time as much. And that is why, again, you are not the target market because you extract no business value from accessing the knowledge they spent time and money aggregating for you. Your getting the PDF is inconsequential to both them and yourself.

So go ahead, no one really cares.

EDIT: Lol, you was not referring to you specifically, just the folks who think they are being smart or outsmarting corps by using these services like 10minutemail or whatever it's called

Re: 2020 Cloud Report: AWS vs. GCP vs. Azure

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Post by panarky »

ignoramous wrote: post #29

> ...in 2018, AWS outperformed GCP by 40%, which we attributed to AWS’s Nitro System present in c5 and m5 series... In 2020, we see a return to similar overall performance in each cloud. How did GCP and Azure catch-up to AWS Nitro in one year which IIRC is a coming together of minimalistic micro-vms, hardware-accelerated network and IO cards, hardware offload for encryption and other maintenance tasks... a work that…

> GCP’s network looks much better than either AWS or Azure’s networks.

> Not only do their top performing machines beat each network’s top performing machines, but, so to do their bottom performing machines. Even their least performant machine (n1-highcpu-16 in figure 10) is consistent with AWS’ maximum network throughput as seen in our tests.

> This is especially impressive because last year, AWS outperformed GCP in our network tests. It is a credit to GCP that they have improved their network performance and we are left wondering exactly how they accomplished this improvement.

Re: 2020 Cloud Report: AWS vs. GCP vs. Azure

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Post by mrits »

scarface74 wrote: post #40
Scaevolus wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You wouldn't typically run your database VMs on spot/interruptible instances.

You wouldn’t typically run your databases in a cloud environment on your own VMs - you would use a managed service.

I would never use a managed database service again.

Re: 2020 Cloud Report: AWS vs. GCP vs. Azure

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Post by scarface74 »

mrits wrote: post #86
scarface74 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You wouldn’t typically run your databases in a cloud environment on your own VMs - you would use a managed service.

I would never use a managed database service again.

Well, plenty of people do...

Re: 2020 Cloud Report: AWS vs. GCP vs. Azure

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Post by matt2000 »

mrits wrote: post #86
scarface74 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You wouldn’t typically run your databases in a cloud environment on your own VMs - you would use a managed service.

I would never use a managed database service again.

This sounds like the first line in a novel.
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