A Design for Death
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A Design for Death
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#2The secular problem with this:
How do we make sure that people aren't forced into this?
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#3Nitschke's other (previous, drug perfusion) death machine was on display in MONA in Hobart. its an otherwise pedestrian installation of a suitcase sized box, and a bag on a stand, next to a chaise longue. I found it very confronting. Normalized but somehow not normal.
He's a polarising figure. Saying something rational, but causing immense community disquiet when people come close to voting. (I believe he has the right of it, but successive State, Territory and Federal governments have shied away from the topic, the impact of the church on Australian polity is pretty big)
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#4The secular problem with this: How do we make sure that people aren't forced into this?
How do we make sure this doesn't happen anyway with people flying to Basel? How do we make sure doctors don't overprescribe opioids and casually assume death is the best option? How do we stop people stockpiling drugs and killing themselves at home?
You're flying a strawman, if you think this is the killer reason (hah) this idea shouldn't happen.
We're not close to seeing these on the streets as in the opening scenes of Futurama.
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#5The secular problem with this: How do we make sure that people aren't forced into this?
I think it would be great if people were required to answer a questionnaire with even a psych evaluation in person for wanting to end life.
I don’t think any person should ever be refused their request to die. I just think the information is valuable to obtain for going forward by designing society to be more favorable for people to want to live. Currently a lot of people with tremendous psychological pain are being forced to continue being in pain because people don’t want to let them end their life. People with depression should be able to have free will over their own life.
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#6Last week my grandmother had a stroke in her sleep--the most major of a series of strokes that she has endured for slightly over a year that have sent her slowly sinking into dementia. After several days in the hospital without having regained consciousness, her advance directive was enacted and her feeding tube removed. She's at home now in hospice care, surrounded by her husband and children. There's nothing left to do now but wait for death.
Of my two grandmothers, she's the lucky one. The other was T-boned while driving by a pickup blasting through a stop sign. Her body was shattered and her freedom and mobility irrevocably taken. She spent the last two years of her life sequestered away in a nursing home, her mind deteriorating, her few nearby children visiting once a week at most, her husband dead 15 years hence.
Death sucks. But the hell on Earth we force people to endure while waiting for it to arrive doesn't seem much preferable.
Have an advance directive, folks.
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#7The secular problem with this: How do we make sure that people aren't forced into this?
How do we make sure this doesn't happen anyway with people flying to Basel? How do we make sure doctors don't overprescribe opioids and casually assume death is the best option? How do we stop people stockpiling drugs and killing themselves at home? You're flying a strawman, if you think this is the killer reason (hah) this idea shouldn't happen. We're not close to seeing these on the streets as in the opening scenes…
Now the question is: could I get a refund the way Bender tried it with a coin?
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
How do we make sure this doesn't happen anyway with people flying to Basel? How do we make sure doctors don't overprescribe opioids and casually assume death is the best option? How do we stop people stockpiling drugs and killing themselves at home? You're flying a strawman, if you think this is the killer reason (hah) this idea shouldn't happen. We're not close to seeing these on the streets as in the opening scenes…
Now the question is: could I get a refund the way Bender tried it with a coin?
You go first.
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#9The secular problem with this: How do we make sure that people aren't forced into this?
I think it would be great if people were required to answer a questionnaire with even a psych evaluation in person for wanting to end life. I don’t think any person should ever be refused their request to die. I just think the information is valuable to obtain for going forward by designing society to be more favorable for people to want to live. Currently a lot of people with tremendous psychological pain are being…
> People with depression
Depression can usually be treated and results in less will to kill oneself. There is a good case to make that when you suffer from depression you are not yourself anymore.
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#10The secular problem with this: How do we make sure that people aren't forced into this?
Wouldn’t it be same as making sure people are not forced to suicide ?