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The falling price of a TV set

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Re: The falling price of a TV set

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"The trade-offs for cheap TVs is that customers are themselves becoming the product for TV makers [...] For something to be as cheap as a great TV, people have to give something up — whether they know it or not." Just never give the TV its own direct connection to the internet. Use another device that you do trust, to feed the big screen its content.

This is getting really hard with some devices. I got a bose soundbar at the start of the year and it comes with a remote that has a few basic features but it is almost impossible to use properly without configuring it via the app and the app demands that you first create an account and then give the device your wifi password.

In the end I eventually caved and installed the app and connected it to the internet to configure and then blocked the device from my router.

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I wonder if we'll see a similar trend for speakers as they integrate with Google Home and Alexa.

Currently people are willing to pay for virtual assistants but in the near future subsidization is inevitable as the data collection and advertising opportunities are too great.

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The one thing I never understood about this is, aren't you just free to not hookup your TV to the WiFi? I've bought SmartTVs and have just used them as "dumb" TVs and they work perfectly fine. Aren't you there capturing the benefit of this supposedly lower price without having to give up any personal data back?

But people want to watch Netflix, Amazon Prime or other stream services. Modern smart TVs have those integrated.

Just get a Chromecast or any other streaming player device and hook it up to the TV with only HDMI. Solved- TV don't need to be able to spy on you.

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I just purchased a 55" 4K LG TV from Costco for under $400 out the door. The TV's sole purpose is to display an Apple TV's output, and will not be connected to the internet. Interestingly, it has AirPlay and Homekit built-in, but that's largely irrelevant due to the Apple TV.

This TV is replacing a 46" ~10yo Samsung purchased for over 1.1k that has very basic "Smart" capabilities like playing MKV files from a USB drive and network, which in my opinion is when smart TVs peaked.

Re: The falling price of a TV set

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Exactly the reason why I wish Apple introduce Apple TV Set. Or partner with LG where they sell the panel with a cable attached to Apple TV.

Instead we now have AppleTV App that lives inside the Android TV ecosystem, and requires Internet connection which automatically sends data to who knows where.

And I dont like having two remote to control my TV.

Re: The falling price of a TV set

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I just purchased a 55" 4K LG TV from Costco for under $400 out the door. The TV's sole purpose is to display an Apple TV's output, and will not be connected to the internet. Interestingly, it has AirPlay and Homekit built-in, but that's largely irrelevant due to the Apple TV. This TV is replacing a 46" ~10yo Samsung purchased for over 1.1k that has very basic "Smart" capabilities like playing MKV files from a USB dri…

It's probably an edge lit TV. FALDs are more expensive.

Re: The falling price of a TV set

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I remember we payed 300 quid for a 26" color TV in 1976.

We inherited ours, it drew 500W according to the spec, I suspect it was worse than that. The next one was 150W. The current one is down to 65W and doesn’t even register on my meter on standby.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But people want to watch Netflix, Amazon Prime or other stream services. Modern smart TVs have those integrated.

Just get a Chromecast or any other streaming player device and hook it up to the TV with only HDMI. Solved- TV don't need to be able to spy on you.

Chromecasts may be the best low-key (and low-cast) gadget out there. Which probably means Google will kill it :-/

Just use my tablet, phone, or laptop to put content up on the TV. It makes for a pretty nice digital picture frame too.

Re: The falling price of a TV set

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> Automakers, for example, can now expect to see bigger profits from the loans they make on selling cars than from selling the actual cars

I've heard of that. Then I heard dealers will give you a hard time if you want to buy a car right out, some will even run your credit without your permission. I don't have the money to go buy a new car right now, but it's pretty sad that saving up and paying for things is so discouraged now. Then dealerships in general people don't like or even lie to people, I guess one told someone they were required to fill out a credit application by law even if it doesn't get processed... So if your credit union or your own bank got you financing, then want to try to undercut that. Then heard some dealership someone was looking at new cars thinking of trading their car in, but changed their mind but the dealer kept their keys a little longer trying to keep them there. Seems like walking into a dealership is getting into a hostage situation.

People are just putting everything on credit, a car they probably shouldn't of bought and sits parked most of the time, people refinance their mortgages over and over again so they'll probably never end up paying off their house. It's insane how much debt is pushed... and also seems easier to get into student debt than getting loans to start a small business.

Seems like the priorities are all off anymore and they want everyone to be in debt. Then people with poor credit might end up paying double or more the value of the car, someone I knew bought a used car and was going to end up paying 4x the value of it... and then in some parts of the country if you don't have a car, you don't have a job unless you live in one of the big cities with public transport. Some areas don't even have sidewalks either, and some people have attitudes against cyclists too since they paid more for their car or SUV so they feel more entitled to the road. I guess whoever has the best car is some sort of contest, but I can see why it draws people in. Someone I know has got a new car every few years, now regrets doing that since so much money they could of had saved up now.

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