Nokia has as many people for smartphone software as Apple does for all products
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Re: Nokia has as many people for smartphone software as Apple does for all products
#2So? What are we supposed to take away from that? They have more numbers? That doesn't extrapolate to better products or better anything.
Re: Nokia has as many people for smartphone software as Apple does for all products
#3Might be interesting to look at the total salaries instead of just the headcount. I understand Nokia did quite a lot of cheap outsourcing in the last decade.
Re: Nokia has as many people for smartphone software as Apple does for all products
#4So? What are we supposed to take away from that? They have more numbers? That doesn't extrapolate to better products or better anything.
>That doesn't extrapolate to better products or better anything.
Agreed. So maybe we should be asking how Apple is growing faster than Nokia with fewer resources?
Re: Nokia has as many people for smartphone software as Apple does for all products
#5Might be interesting to look at the total salaries instead of just the headcount. I understand Nokia did quite a lot of cheap outsourcing in the last decade.
According to Asymco's data, Nokia also spends 10.2% of their phone revenue on R&D, versus 2.5% for Apple.
Re: Nokia has as many people for smartphone software as Apple does for all products
#6No matter what you say about Nokia, I love them. Here is why:
- Easy designs
- Affordable phones
- user replaceable batteries
- Cheap and fits in with my upgrade cycles
- the N900.
Re: Nokia has as many people for smartphone software as Apple does for all products
#7So? What are we supposed to take away from that? They have more numbers? That doesn't extrapolate to better products or better anything.
I don't think this article is praise for Nokia, quite the opposite. They are saying that Apple is much more efficient.
More to the point, Nokia is losing profit compared to Apple:
http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:NOK&fstype=ii
http://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:AAPL&fstype=ii
so measuring efficiency as net income per employee the contrast is more stark.
Re: Nokia has as many people for smartphone software as Apple does for all products
#8In my mind, this proves how important it is to hire people that can hit the high notes
The Creative Zen team could spend years refining their
ugly iPod knockoffs and never produce as beautiful,
satisfying, and elegant a player as the Apple iPod. And
they're not going to make a dent in Apple's market share
because the magical design talent is just not there.
They don't have it.
The mediocre talent just never hits the high notes that
the top talent hits all the time. The number of divas
who can hit the f6 in Mozart's Queen of the Night is
vanishingly small, and you just can't perform The Queen
of the Night without that famous f6.
Re: Nokia has as many people for smartphone software as Apple does for all products
#9So? What are we supposed to take away from that? They have more numbers? That doesn't extrapolate to better products or better anything.
>That doesn't extrapolate to better products or better anything. Agreed. So maybe we should be asking how Apple is growing faster than Nokia with fewer resources?
Nokia suffers from the mythical man-month. They've only recently discovered that throwing 6,000 engineers at Symbian didn't make it better.
Re: Nokia has as many people for smartphone software as Apple does for all products
#10I was going to submit a comment about how poorly written the article is. Instead I will just mention that this has always been one of Apple's best qualities. They have managed to stay lean and capitalize on the inability of their competitors to do the same.