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2020 Cloud Report: AWS vs. GCP vs. Azure

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Re: 2020 Cloud Report: AWS vs. GCP vs. Azure

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Notice how the responses are honest ones, where people would rather skip the report than supply their real email address? The target demographic are tech savvy, so 90% of the leads are going to be 10MM email addresses. The popularity of this thread illustrate that there is a need/use for this content - so Cockroach nailed the bait, but have massively overshot the type of trap required to convert these savvy mice.

That 10minutemail workaround is easy to block, just require a business domain and a use a verification link.

Like many similar problems, it's a cat and mouse game. For example, it's equally easy to detect adblockers, but they are still really effective.

Re: 2020 Cloud Report: AWS vs. GCP vs. Azure

#32

> ...in 2018, AWS outperformed GCP by 40%, which we attributed to AWS’s Nitro System present in c5 and m5 series... In 2020, we see a return to similar overall performance in each cloud. How did GCP and Azure catch-up to AWS Nitro in one year which IIRC is a coming together of minimalistic micro-vms, hardware-accelerated network and IO cards, hardware offload for encryption and other maintenance tasks... a work that…

It's more likely that all of them started working on it at about the same time and AWS came out first.

Re: 2020 Cloud Report: AWS vs. GCP vs. Azure

#33

They calculated the costs based on 3 years running at the hourly rate. That's kinda weird. How about including multi-year discounts? These are available to everyone. [1] https://azure.microsoft.com/en-ca/pricing/reserved-vm-instan... [2] https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/reserved-instances/ [3] https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/instances/signing-up-c...

Yeah, and without comparing spot/interruptible prices, these results are meaningless for me.

Re: 2020 Cloud Report: AWS vs. GCP vs. Azure

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can always use a disposable email address like 10 Minute Mail: https://10minutemail.com/

Notice how the responses are honest ones, where people would rather skip the report than supply their real email address? The target demographic are tech savvy, so 90% of the leads are going to be 10MM email addresses. The popularity of this thread illustrate that there is a need/use for this content - so Cockroach nailed the bait, but have massively overshot the type of trap required to convert these savvy mice.

Nah be realistic 99% of people will give their work email to read it and not care.

Re: 2020 Cloud Report: AWS vs. GCP vs. Azure

#35

They calculated the costs based on 3 years running at the hourly rate. That's kinda weird. How about including multi-year discounts? These are available to everyone. [1] https://azure.microsoft.com/en-ca/pricing/reserved-vm-instan... [2] https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/reserved-instances/ [3] https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/instances/signing-up-c...

Yeah, and without comparing spot/interruptible prices, these results are meaningless for me.

You wouldn't typically run your database VMs on spot/interruptible instances.

Re: 2020 Cloud Report: AWS vs. GCP vs. Azure

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, and without comparing spot/interruptible prices, these results are meaningless for me.

You wouldn't typically run your database VMs on spot/interruptible instances.

why not? Just kidding, but it's getting more common :)

Re: 2020 Cloud Report: AWS vs. GCP vs. Azure

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Looking at the Azure networking numbers I wonder if they got their configs correctly optimized. Azure networking was always tricky to get best performance when I used it heavily at my last co.

Yeah was about to say - I'm sure I've seen numbers 5x that even on small azure instances.

Re: 2020 Cloud Report: AWS vs. GCP vs. Azure

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Looking at the Azure networking numbers I wonder if they got their configs correctly optimized. Azure networking was always tricky to get best performance when I used it heavily at my last co.

No, I contacted them directly after seeing this report and confirmed they did not even use accelerated networking (which is a free, but opt-in service on Azure), much less things like placement proximity groups (which only recently went public). So machines were communicating across availability zones (separated physically by miles and logically by additional networking layers) and a bunch of networking was happening in CPU rather than offloaded to FPGA.

Disclosure: I work for Azure networking.

Re: 2020 Cloud Report: AWS vs. GCP vs. Azure

#40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, and without comparing spot/interruptible prices, these results are meaningless for me.

You wouldn't typically run your database VMs on spot/interruptible instances.

You wouldn’t typically run your databases in a cloud environment on your own VMs - you would use a managed service.
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