Well, at least there's https://text.npr.org/ ... for now.
As a reader of npr.org in Europe, I’m prompted by https://choice.npr.org to either accept cookies or visit the text site. I wonder if https://text.npr.org is also tracking-cookie free.
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#12Well, at least there's https://text.npr.org/ ... for now.
As a reader of npr.org in Europe, I’m prompted by https://choice.npr.org to either accept cookies or visit the text site. I wonder if https://text.npr.org is also tracking-cookie free.
A cursory inspection of the html shows nothing in the header and nothing blocked on the usual uBlock Origin / Firefox tracking protection dashboards.
Edit - the header in its entirety:
Text-Only NPR.org
Re: Tell HN: CNN Lite no longer functional
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a reader of npr.org in Europe, I’m prompted by https://choice.npr.org to either accept cookies or visit the text site. I wonder if https://text.npr.org is also tracking-cookie free.
A cursory inspection of the html shows nothing in the header and nothing blocked on the usual uBlock Origin / Firefox tracking protection dashboards. Edit - the header in its entirety: Text-Only NPR.org
Thanks for checking. I’m on mobile safari and I don’t think there are any dev tools or show source.
Re: Tell HN: CNN Lite no longer functional
#14Sad times for CNN began 3 yrs ago when they added strong bias to otherwise objective and very professional coverage of natiowide and worldwide events. I grew up with CNN being my goto window to the world. Now it feels to become more like angry, old neighbor
Criticism of CNN going to biased reporting began a decade or so ago when they started falling way behind in market share compared to Fox News and MSNBC.
Unfortunately being objective doesn't give a rapid fan base.
Not sure if there was a delay before it bled over to their website, I'm only aware of comments about the cable station.
It is unfortunate that unbiased boring news just doesn't sell.
The best college class I ever took (most useful?) was a logic class where we went through political speeches and disassembled them into logical statements. We learned how to strip away bias to see the underlying arguments.
My favorite test question in that class was a political speech that, when reduced down to logical statements literally equated to null. The speech went around in so many circles that, quite literally, everything said in it was unsaid at some later point in the speech and absolutely nothing was promised by the end.
I've been rather cynical of politicians ever since. Also I ended up being super sensitive to loaded phrases and propaganda. Once you've been trained in spotting it, it becomes obvious how prevalent purposeful bias is in our media.
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#15I wonder if it got a bunch of traffic yesterday from being mentioned in a HN post, and they decided it wasn't worth it. Mentioned in here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21798623
I guess this is the comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21799369
Re: Tell HN: CNN Lite no longer functional
#16Sad times for CNN began 3 yrs ago when they added strong bias to otherwise objective and very professional coverage of natiowide and worldwide events. I grew up with CNN being my goto window to the world. Now it feels to become more like angry, old neighbor
Did it really start only three years ago? Or did you only notice it starting three years ago?
My take.
For a long time CNN was the "School Shooting Channel" and the "MH370 Channel"; call it bias or not, but it was definitely focused on things that seemed to get a certain kind of person watching while biting their nails.
Then Trump started running for president and CNN discovered that he was good for ratings, and surprising to them, Bernie Sanders was too.
Trump was very good for CNN's ratings because for once you might watch CNN and expect Trump to say absolutely insane. Then once he got elected it was like every day was September 11.
(One might say that CNN felt guilty for giving Trump so much attention that it led to his election. Contrast that to the very little coverage Bloomberg is getting despite a stupendous ad spend... I think the media wants to give him a chance to walk that one back!)
What's great about it for them is that they can just sit in their Washington, DC and Atlanta headquarters and rap and not have to invest in travel, journalism, or anything inconvenient like that.
So I think that CNN made a definite transition when Trump got elected.
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#17Sad times for CNN began 3 yrs ago when they added strong bias to otherwise objective and very professional coverage of natiowide and worldwide events. I grew up with CNN being my goto window to the world. Now it feels to become more like angry, old neighbor
Criticism of CNN going to biased reporting began a decade or so ago when they started falling way behind in market share compared to Fox News and MSNBC. Unfortunately being objective doesn't give a rapid fan base. Not sure if there was a delay before it bled over to their website, I'm only aware of comments about the cable station. It is unfortunate that unbiased boring news just doesn't sell. The best college class…
I basically can't stomach watching/reading any "news" media any longer. Fox News needs no introduction, CNN follows closely behind. I'm so sickened by all the bias (one way or the other) that I feel like it's all tabloid nonsense and that it isn't worth my time.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
A cursory inspection of the html shows nothing in the header and nothing blocked on the usual uBlock Origin / Firefox tracking protection dashboards. Edit - the header in its entirety: Text-Only NPR.org
Thanks for checking. I’m on mobile safari and I don’t think there are any dev tools or show source.
Heh, a long, long time ago I made a View Source app for iOS for specifically this purpose.
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#19I've unfortunately had to stop reading CNN due to their website.
I was in the same boat until I found the lite site. But I guess less news is fine for now.
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#20Strange. I was reading it literally a couple hours ago. It has gone down for extended periods in the past, most likely when the unpaid intern running it had exams or something.
I read it yesterday, and I’ve seen it down in the past. But when it was down before, there were no articles listed at all, so this seems different.