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Honestly, it's like the people who never fail to let a new acquaintance know that they abstain from owning televisions.
I think that this phenomenon is mostly a bandwagon of Guru's who want to have something new and 'revolutionary' to present to their followers. Pavlina's always telling people to quit something. First it was regular sleep, then monogamy, etc. While he purports to be anti-consumption, this really just makes us focus on our consumption even more.
A better strategy for a balanced digital life is to pragmatically audit your useage on an ongoing basis.
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7 screens of text about quitting using facebook? He seems kind of obsessed by the idea. > My Facebook page was maxed out at 5K friends and was very active. 5000 friends??? No wonder he got tired of it. Before I passed 100 I rarely used the 'hide' button, now I use it more, and I think hiding people and blocking apps (and sometimes turning chat off) is a good way to make fb experience less annoying.
yeah, 5k friends would be a horrible experience unless they were mostly hidden from your stream. You would never see anything you close friends posted.
Don't see what the problem is? Why do you need to quit facebook? Even after reading all these arguments. I'm on facebook where I occasionally share a picture of my son or a picture from something I enjoy. I don't post often but this way my parents en grandparents can see my son growing up. Don't actually care if my 'friends' see this. When I'm on the toilet I sometimes take my iphone and check the FB stream. Check it…
I can sympathize. EVERYONE is on Facebook, and it's dead simple to use. I almost solely use it to post pictures of & stories about the kids to relatives. It also allows me to keep in touch with geo distant relatives' lives without them having to write it out on a postcard. I don't know of anything else that is in the same galaxy of convenience. If Facebook didn't do this, I wouldn't ever have signed up for an account…
I quit using Facebook about 3-4 years ago while I was still in university. Extremely interesting experience.. people I used to be "friends" with got angry at me, people who I had friendly relationships with stopped communicating with me almost immediately, and I no longer received any invitations to any type of social events ( http://www.thewrongbox.ca/videos/iamfacebook ). At first it was a little lonely, but it mad…
Some op-ed considered dropping out of facebook as a radically anti-social act, and I'd have to agree: you're not considering the group's views on communication, and you're forcing them into a personal world. When the entire social circle uses facebook as a communication platform, it's pretty pompous to expect it to use what a single person wants. This is my argument boiled down: expecting a group of people to conform to a single person's views is rude, and the delusion that the one person is so important that everyone else will conform is anti-social.
The majority opinion on HN seems to be that this isn't, oddly enough. The last time I stated my experience it seemed to piss a lot of people off, and there was a knee-jerk reaction that "true friends will work around it." Maybe, but weak connections are important as well, and since facebook is the place for weak-connection friends, defiantly not using it seems off and a little anti-social.
Another argument was that interaction existed before facebook, so not using it is fine. That's dancing around the point: facebook is the current defacto standard of social communication, not participating it is seen as aggravating to the other party, not that it destroys communication completely. Try telling your friends that you'll only interact with them in orkut. Or, for the Gen X'rs here, that you're dropping your phone, and you expect them to say "hi, how's the job" through post mail and in-person visits. There's a series of fall backs here that's reversed for the average hacker. The hacker sees facebook as personal, and email/phone public. The average person sees facebook as a public place, and email/phone as a personal channel.
Don't see what the problem is? Why do you need to quit facebook? Even after reading all these arguments. I'm on facebook where I occasionally share a picture of my son or a picture from something I enjoy. I don't post often but this way my parents en grandparents can see my son growing up. Don't actually care if my 'friends' see this. When I'm on the toilet I sometimes take my iphone and check the FB stream. Check it…
I'm really interested in the difference between your perspective (which I share) and the perspective of Mr Pavlina (which my friends share). I see people's attitudes towards FB fall into these two distinct camps: 1) People who feel compelled by FB somehow, and end up deleting their profiles or "Quitting" entirely, and 2) People who have a profile, but don't feel compelled to check it or interact- except at their leis…
Everyone has different means of communication they prefer. Some people like to stick to email or IM, others vastly prefer phone, some people always let their phone go to voicemail and call you back at their leisure (or not at all). There's always going to be some give-and-take, Facebook is just another piece in that puzzle.
I quit using Facebook about 3-4 years ago while I was still in university. Extremely interesting experience.. people I used to be "friends" with got angry at me, people who I had friendly relationships with stopped communicating with me almost immediately, and I no longer received any invitations to any type of social events ( http://www.thewrongbox.ca/videos/iamfacebook ). At first it was a little lonely, but it mad…
Same experience here, as soon as I dropped out of facebook, I was immediately blacklisted in every social circle that used it, even if the primary mode of communication was texting/email. Some op-ed considered dropping out of facebook as a radically anti-social act, and I'd have to agree: you're not considering the group's views on communication, and you're forcing them into a personal world. When the entire social c…
Why the hell does he use the "Like" button if he's quit Facebook? (I know it's for others to share, but still. Double messages much?)
It's not hypocrisy, it's compatibility. Every social networking site offers a bunch of new interactions, and you can support members without endorsing membership.