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Re: If You Can't Buy the Keyboard You Want, Build It Instead

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The keyboard I want is one where the surfaces can be separated from the electronics so I can wash the damn thing.

I believe there was one gaming keyboard that worked this way (custom overlays) and Logitech has one keyboard they claim is washable, but IIRC the keys are mushy. No thanks.

Re: If You Can't Buy the Keyboard You Want, Build It Instead

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Interesting. I'd like to build my own keyboard, but my crafting skills are not good enough for it. It's a pity how few tenkeyless mechanical keyboards with a ctrl capslock dip switch there are, and most of them don't allow you to install matching custom key caps. I'm currently using a Pok3r, which is okay, but I really wish there were more custom keyboard options on the market.

> It's a pity how few tenkeyless mechanical keyboards with a ctrl capslock dip switch there are I suppose it's because everyone knows how to do that mapping in their OS these days. Many mechs even have reflashable firmware, if it came to that.

If you boot several OSes, use ssh connections, and remote desktop connections, this really becomes a hassle. It always breaks at the wrong moment with some kind of OS update. Especially key remapping on Linux is a horrible experience in the long run.

Re: If You Can't Buy the Keyboard You Want, Build It Instead

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I'm simply a mechanical keyboard user, I have a few trusty Filcos that I use and I will sometimes buy a keycap set and wait 1 year for it[1]; I don't have the courage to build custom keyboards. However I do derive a vicarious pleasure looking at the build logs and end results shared by others, this post included. The two best places I've found to follow are the /r/mechanicalkeyboards[2] subreddit and the geekhack.org…

Maybe that's just me, but I get really annoyed by other people using (freakishly loud) mechanical keyboards in the office. It disrupts me from doing my work and some keyboards even penetrante my Bose QC ii with quiet music on...

Re: If You Can't Buy the Keyboard You Want, Build It Instead

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I don't really understand why people want such tiny keyboards. The most comfortable (and healthy!) way to type is to have your hands a shoulderwidth apart so you don't have to compress your arms. I used an ergodox infinity for a while which was fantastic in terms of back pain but terrible in terms of everything else. I currently use a Kinesis Advantage 1 which I'm tempted to dremel in half so I can get proper separat…

Aren’t the Ergodoxen already two separate units it is there a cable limitation? I was looking at buying one or a similar split keyboard for the reason you stated.

They are and that works fine, but the infinity has a really bad case that I had to modify just to stop it sliding around on my desk. Also I had one from the bad batch whose USB ports would occasionally rip off the board taking its traces with it (and mine did)

Re: If You Can't Buy the Keyboard You Want, Build It Instead

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I'm simply a mechanical keyboard user, I have a few trusty Filcos that I use and I will sometimes buy a keycap set and wait 1 year for it[1]; I don't have the courage to build custom keyboards. However I do derive a vicarious pleasure looking at the build logs and end results shared by others, this post included. The two best places I've found to follow are the /r/mechanicalkeyboards[2] subreddit and the geekhack.org…

The last time I dropped by /r/mechanicalkeyboards it was full of people that thought Cherry MX was the be-all end-all rather than just a brand name and a poor substitute for something like a proper buckling spring switch. Is that still the case?

Maybe it's just a matter of taste, or maybe you have some original old keyboard like the Model M in mind. I've good a Unicomp Spacesaver and a keyboard with Cherry MX Red switches and I've got to confess that I prefer the latter. Both are good but the Cherry switches feel "snappier" in a very pleasant way.

Re: If You Can't Buy the Keyboard You Want, Build It Instead

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I'll be honest, I bought an Ergodox EZ a year or so ago and have consistently struggled to get comfortable using it. I have set up quite a few useful macros for programs I use daily like tmux as well as making it more vim-friendly (after many interations) and yet I still find it a serious chore to get past the fact that the keys feel un-naturally placed. Eventually I just give up and switch back to my laptop keyboard…

I also struggled with the otholinear layout and ended up switching to a http://www.mistelkeyboard.com/md650l-barocco/

no pricing info, or anything else to suggest any way to get one of these from what I see. Maybe it's the English version that suffers in this way? They look cool. If they could make one with no need for wire between the two halves I'd dig deeper on how to get one I suppose.

Re: If You Can't Buy the Keyboard You Want, Build It Instead

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What an Ergodox lets me do is this: while standing, with good posture, I extend my arms, level with the ground, to where they comfortably and naturally want to be. Then, I put the keyboards there, adjust the desk up to that height, and put books under the monitor until the center is exactly level with my eyes. Trackball to the right. This is dramatically more comfortable than anything else I could be doing. It's hard…

Yep totally agree, in fact sometimes when people see it and ask me questions about it, I suggest they stand at my desk and lay their hands on the two islands. Even without typing a single character they almost invariably react extremely positively to the ergonomic pose.

Typing this on an Ergodox EZ as well.

I defined custom layers so that I can toggle a layer on depending on whether I'm using the keyboard with Chrome OS or Ubuntu Linux. This allows me to use the same shortcuts between the two OSes, while they are otherwise not customizable on Chrome OS. Also, it allows me to use media keys for Chrome OS on a split/ergo keyboard.

Plus as a Vim user, I'm able to use HJKL arrow keys in any app on either OS.

My layout is here:

https://configure.ergodox-ez.com/ergodox-ez/layouts/3vzB7/GZ...

Re: If You Can't Buy the Keyboard You Want, Build It Instead

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hipster tax ;) (also, y'know - hand made products)

I don't think it's handmade. It has an injection-molded case, a PCB with surface-mount components that are likely pick-and-place'd, etc. I don't think they build them in quantities comparable to Logitech... but it's basically a mass-produced product.

According to https://ergodox-ez.com/pages/sustainability they make it in an office rather than a factory. Obviously that doesn't rule out a small pick and place machine but it seems less likely.

Re: If You Can't Buy the Keyboard You Want, Build It Instead

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I'm simply a mechanical keyboard user, I have a few trusty Filcos that I use and I will sometimes buy a keycap set and wait 1 year for it[1]; I don't have the courage to build custom keyboards. However I do derive a vicarious pleasure looking at the build logs and end results shared by others, this post included. The two best places I've found to follow are the /r/mechanicalkeyboards[2] subreddit and the geekhack.org…

Maybe that's just me, but I get really annoyed by other people using (freakishly loud) mechanical keyboards in the office. It disrupts me from doing my work and some keyboards even penetrante my Bose QC ii with quiet music on...

I agree especially because I use a mechanical keyboard as well, and it makes convincing someone to bring it more difficult. Some folks are really unreasonable with the sounds that they expect others to not be able to hear, and I think it ruins it for the rest of us.

Re: If You Can't Buy the Keyboard You Want, Build It Instead

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> - you can afford the lower productivity (e.g: you are not a freelancer that needs a regular output) Why lower productivity? The person who created it thinks it will lower RSI therefor increase productivity.

Is RSI even that normal? I have never heard anyone talk about it in real life, only in these threads does it seem like everyone has it.

It's really common for computer programmers. In every big corp I've been in, there's usually one of 10 people who has an issue with it and uses some weird keyboard. I have pretty bad RSI and it comes from just being a computer user since I was 3 and developing bad habits along the way.
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