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For those who don't know, Zhaoxin is a continuation of the Via x86 line. Neat to see a third vendor still kicking.
Do they retain the legal agreements Via had for x86 usage?
I’ve read about it many times but still can’t figure it out completely. Can a x86 license holder always use any of its new features? For example, you had a license in the 90s, can you automatically use 256, 512 width vector instructions? Are none of those licenses untransferable in case of the company purchase or just AMD’s? Is the license policy from Intel a result from IBM’s pressure back in the day? Did they deman…
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It has more to do with state grants, which in China are quite big
Which they are forced to give. If US companies stop selling components to China, it’s back to the stone age for them.
OTH China invests 95% of GDP on infrastructure (compared to 1.5% in the US), creating a huge domestic market. And a a stop of trade with the US will also mean a stop of China keeping the dollar strong - which they do because their currency is pegged to the dollar. They won't have a reason to continue this practice without trade with the US.
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Which one exactly? Afaik all the CPUs on their roadmap never existed.
They exist. You can buy a Lenovo Kaitian-series dekstop in China with a Zhaoxin chip. They also have a bunch of laptops. You can't outside of china because that's their agreement with Via. You can still find them on Alibaba sometimes.
Lenovo Kaitian M6100/A6100 were real, powered by renamed VIA NANO chips. Taiwanese designed VIA Nano E-C4650 got rebadged and magically became homegrown Chinese ZX-C4650 design etc. Good old Pentium 3 Mobile AGTL+ Socket 479 bus circa 2001 vintage. https://wccftech.com/via-28nm-c4650-x86-quad-core-processor-...
Yes, the renamed original old school Centaur/VIA designs do exist, and perform at ~Intel Atom z8300 level. Good review by Chinese tech vlogger https://www.bilibili.com/video/av61782186/
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For those who don't know, Zhaoxin _never_ released any x86 product. Over the last 10? years their only output have been laughable roadmaps listing non existing processors.
seriously?
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For those who don't know, Zhaoxin _never_ released any x86 product. Over the last 10? years their only output have been laughable roadmaps listing non existing processors.
Leonove ThinkPads with Zhaoxin prosessors have been spotted in China. https://imgur.com/a/kIK8bmw
For those who don't know, Zhaoxin is a continuation of the Via x86 line. Neat to see a third vendor still kicking.
Fourth vendor actually! Centaur just announced a new core for the server market and even AVX-512 support. See this https://fuse.wikichip.org/news/3099/centaur-unveils-its-new-...
I’ve read about it many times but still can’t figure it out completely. Can a x86 license holder always use any of its new features? For example, you had a license in the 90s, can you automatically use 256, 512 width vector instructions? Are none of those licenses untransferable in case of the company purchase or just AMD’s? Is the license policy from Intel a result from IBM’s pressure back in the day? Did they deman…
I’ve read about it many times but still can’t figure it out completely. Can a x86 license holder always use any of its new features? For example, you had a license in the 90s, can you automatically use 256, 512 width vector instructions? Are none of those licenses untransferable in case of the company purchase or just AMD’s? Is the license policy from Intel a result from IBM’s pressure back in the day? Did they deman…
AMDs initial x86 processors were indeed as an IBM mandated second source, but I think their 386 class (and definitely 486 class) processors were independently developed. I suspect Intel won't cancel existing licenses for anti-trust reasons, but also would price a new license for a lot more than in the 486 days.
No pricing, unfortunately.
This cpu may never be sold. It's an effort by the chinese government to be less dependent on american companies.