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When Irish Eyes Are Crying

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Australia also has had a long, rolling property boom, with bank lending behind it all. It didn't pop when expected because our economy was propped up by mineral/metal prices, due to China's demand and surprisingly little supply from other countries. Both may change.

It still has a bubble which hasn't popped. Australia is def a nation to watch.

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One of the few positive things to have come out of the financial crisis of 2008 is that it has probably killed any prospect of Scotland becoming independent - we used to be promised that we could share in the same kinds of success as Ireland and Iceland if only we had the courage to go it alone! I doubt if many people have the appetite for being stuck in a small country with a financial monster like RBS or HBOS. [NB…

Whenever I hear about people wanting to break away like that I'm always reminded "There's strength in numbers". As the world economy starts to flatten out, we're all learning that it comes down to a population game. I wonder if we'll see a point where two countries vote to merge together to create a stronger economy.

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post #9

One of the few positive things to have come out of the financial crisis of 2008 is that it has probably killed any prospect of Scotland becoming independent - we used to be promised that we could share in the same kinds of success as Ireland and Iceland if only we had the courage to go it alone! I doubt if many people have the appetite for being stuck in a small country with a financial monster like RBS or HBOS. [NB…

Whenever I hear about people wanting to break away like that I'm always reminded "There's strength in numbers". As the world economy starts to flatten out, we're all learning that it comes down to a population game. I wonder if we'll see a point where two countries vote to merge together to create a stronger economy.

Both the future independent Scotland and the United Kingdom of England and Wales would presumably be constituent nations of the European Union.

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It's interesting to compare Greece and Ireland.

Greece was profligate, openly cooking the books since at least 2002 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Financial_Audit,_2004) whereas Ireland was doing the noble thing by imposing austere measures on itself.

Yet both needed bailouts by the EU recently, and both will probably wind up defaulting.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whenever I hear about people wanting to break away like that I'm always reminded "There's strength in numbers". As the world economy starts to flatten out, we're all learning that it comes down to a population game. I wonder if we'll see a point where two countries vote to merge together to create a stronger economy.

Both the future independent Scotland and the United Kingdom of England and Wales would presumably be constituent nations of the European Union.

"Independence in Europe" has been a policy of the SNP for a long time. Interestingly enough the relevant page on their site still has:

"The SNP believes that Independence in Europe is the logical next step for Scotland to take on its road to becoming a normal, democratic, European nation, just like Denmark, Ireland or Luxembourg."

http://www.snp.org/node/242

Note that I'm not anti-EU at all - quite the opposite.

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post #9

One of the few positive things to have come out of the financial crisis of 2008 is that it has probably killed any prospect of Scotland becoming independent - we used to be promised that we could share in the same kinds of success as Ireland and Iceland if only we had the courage to go it alone! I doubt if many people have the appetite for being stuck in a small country with a financial monster like RBS or HBOS. [NB…

Whenever I hear about people wanting to break away like that I'm always reminded "There's strength in numbers". As the world economy starts to flatten out, we're all learning that it comes down to a population game. I wonder if we'll see a point where two countries vote to merge together to create a stronger economy.

See: the European Union. Shared currency, very little restriction to travel and trade, made it possible to compete economically with the UK.

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One of the few positive things to have come out of the financial crisis of 2008 is that it has probably killed any prospect of Scotland becoming independent - we used to be promised that we could share in the same kinds of success as Ireland and Iceland if only we had the courage to go it alone! I doubt if many people have the appetite for being stuck in a small country with a financial monster like RBS or HBOS. [NB…

One downside of entangled influence: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianoce...

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Banking seems a lot like a gambling except that it's heads you win and tails they lose. Lend big into a property bubble and you'll be rewarded with colossal bonuses. The bubble bursts, loans go bad and the share price collapses. However the main banks banks are considered too big to fail and the taxpayer has to bail them out. Bonuses (smaller ones) for exceptional performance continue to be the norm, rolling heads th…

"Too big to fail" is a classic perverse incentive, and a mockery of the idea that the financial industry can somehow self-regulate.

Unfortunately, if you remove deposit insurance (or any of its variants), people's savings once again become subject to the self-fulfilling whims of insolvency or the unfounded rumour of insolvency.

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Australia also has had a long, rolling property boom, with bank lending behind it all. It didn't pop when expected because our economy was propped up by mineral/metal prices, due to China's demand and surprisingly little supply from other countries. Both may change.

the underlying demand is far different though, the demand for the new housing being built is high. The rental market is also very expensive and has almost zero vacancy. Whereas Ireland sounds like they were struggling to fill the housing being built in Australia the demand for new housing is higher than the rate at which they can be supplied. Maybe at some point things will go backwards but things still look very good in the short to medium term.

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One of the few positive things to have come out of the financial crisis of 2008 is that it has probably killed any prospect of Scotland becoming independent - we used to be promised that we could share in the same kinds of success as Ireland and Iceland if only we had the courage to go it alone! I doubt if many people have the appetite for being stuck in a small country with a financial monster like RBS or HBOS. [NB…

One downside of entangled influence: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianoce...

From what I heard here in Scotland the general impression was that his conviction was probably unsound and that he would probably have been released on appeal anyway - almost certainly exposing a lot of poor investigation and legal work during the original case.

To save embarrassment there was probably a deal done where he dropped his appeal and he got returned home:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/almegrahi-pre...

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