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JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

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Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

#152
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Shame they had to sell out with their bullshit subscription model

It isn't that different from their previous pricing model.

You always have a "perpetual fallback license" for the version you get from your subscription.

If you don't renew, you can still keep developing on whatever version you have. You just won't get the cool new stuff.

Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

#153

I really like IntelliJ and recommend everyone try them even if my favorites are NetBeans, Eclipse and VS Code. This seems to be just some weird preference that my brain has and since Jetbrains is such a nice company and has a sustainable funding model I'm happy to send people their way

For me its because they do a really good job of keeping the UI snappy and responsive. This is pretty impressive considering: 1) Its a java app 2) Continuously running compilers/interpreters in the background 3) Running builds and tests can be bursty and its pretty good about not hanging when that happens.

snappy and responsive is not what comes to my mind when thinking about JetBrains products.

I do think they have really good products, just a little ... slow.

Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

#154
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I'm also a big of of their products, and pay for a persnal subscription for Rider, ReSharper, DotMemory, DotTrace and DotCover. Rider is absolutely stuffed with features, and is way more stable and performant than Visual Studio. I also like the way your renewal gets cheaper every year, as a kind of loyalty bonus. I honestly had no idea they were making so much revenue - very pleased to see it though!

Oh, and a special mention is deserved for Rider's git merge UI, which is by far the best I've used. It's based on 3 window panes: you get your code on the left, theirs on the right, and the result in the middle, along with tools for accepting changes from either side, and you can edit the result pane at will too. I've never liked the git merge UIs in VS or VS code (or other IDEs I've tried over the years) - Rider's i…

Jetbrains merge UI is like `git mergetool --tool=meld` (which you can use with x-tunneling on servers)

Personally, I prefer vscode/atom style merging, but to each his own

Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

#155
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm also a big of of their products, and pay for a persnal subscription for Rider, ReSharper, DotMemory, DotTrace and DotCover. Rider is absolutely stuffed with features, and is way more stable and performant than Visual Studio. I also like the way your renewal gets cheaper every year, as a kind of loyalty bonus. I honestly had no idea they were making so much revenue - very pleased to see it though!

Oh, and a special mention is deserved for Rider's git merge UI, which is by far the best I've used. It's based on 3 window panes: you get your code on the left, theirs on the right, and the result in the middle, along with tools for accepting changes from either side, and you can edit the result pane at will too. I've never liked the git merge UIs in VS or VS code (or other IDEs I've tried over the years) - Rider's i…

doesn't most three-way merge software have that UI? like kdiff3, meld, sublime merge, p4merge, vimdiff et al. (even think jetbrains products have it)

Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

#156

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Thank Java.

Thank Garbage Collected languages. I just checked the IDEA config and found its maximum heap is set to 750 MB by default. You typically wouldn't need 32GB to run it.

I changed the maximum heap for my IntelliJ IDEA instances to 2GB and haven't seen a slowdown since. 750M is too low if you're working on a large project imo. Adding a dependency to my pom and immediately debugging used to cause the IDE to chug while it scanned everything.

Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

#157

I want to like JetBrains and paid for an ultimate subscription for years, but this four-year-old bug renders their products pretty much unusable on macs with a 5k display: https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/JBR-526 . Thus, I've canceled my subscription and moved to vscode for most development.

Really? I use IntelliJ on an external 4k display every day at work with a 2016 MBP. I seem to recall having some issues in early 2017 (when I started at $company), but nowadays it works fine.

EDIT: I'm quite sure I have scaled resolution but can't check.

Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

#158
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm also a big of of their products, and pay for a persnal subscription for Rider, ReSharper, DotMemory, DotTrace and DotCover. Rider is absolutely stuffed with features, and is way more stable and performant than Visual Studio. I also like the way your renewal gets cheaper every year, as a kind of loyalty bonus. I honestly had no idea they were making so much revenue - very pleased to see it though!

I also enjoy DotPeek a lot more than the other .NET decompilers out there. I bought Rider, hoping the Visual Studio emulations would satisfy me (I use Visual Studio at work, but run linux at home) but sadly I have been unable to get it to work.

DotPeek is a gem. I don’t need it often but when I do, I’m super glad it exists (and it’s free!)

Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

#159

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> a jetbrains ide can do are just much better than what my custom setup could do I get frustrated by people who insist on a complex vi/emacs setup for something Jetbrains IDEs do better out of the box. Or people who insist Sublime is good for editing their complex React project.

Hello! I use Sublime for my complex React project. What should I be using instead?

I don't know what OP uses but I use VS code and it's pretty good for a free editor.

Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

#160

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> a jetbrains ide can do are just much better than what my custom setup could do I get frustrated by people who insist on a complex vi/emacs setup for something Jetbrains IDEs do better out of the box. Or people who insist Sublime is good for editing their complex React project.

Hello! I use Sublime for my complex React project. What should I be using instead?

WebStorm is the JetBrains tool for JS development.
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