I love IntelliJ! (but I wish they would add static analysis support for Scala)
JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised
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Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised
#62I'm absolutely pleased with these numbers. This gives confidence that JetBrains has products that are used by a market of paying customers who are developers from companies big and small. Not even raising capital is impressive since these days, we have news of startups / companies with zero profit raising cash every 6 months and on each funding round, they forfeit control of their companies.
With these numbers, this confirms that 'developers' are the new customers.
Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised
#63One of my favourite dev tools, and a personal sweetheart company as well. The way they handled the subscription transition was very amicable and gave me a lot of respect for them. They could have easily gone the way of Adobe.
The software is worth every penny, and having tried many alternatives, I'm hoping I will never have to give it up. Even if they go out of business, so long as I have a matching JRE for my OS it should be useful to me until I no longer need or can write software.
Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised
#64I can’t tell you how many times my use of very vanilla Emacs with zero jedi / autocomplete / search features has saved me in my career. It’s so critical to use text editors for software development and extract all other functionality to separate shell tools. If a mix of very simple vim or Emacs + grep / git grep / silver searcher + CLI tools for automatic linting, test cases, etc., isn’t efficient for you, and motiva…
Comments like this were part of the reason I wasted a lot of time earlier in my career trying to use emacs or vim on large code bases instead of an IDE.
I suspect this is some tribal identity thing about being a “real” programmer that I fell victim too.
The IDEs are extremely powerful and much better out of the box for working in a large code base. They allow you to navigate a lot more easily and focus on the code itself rather than constantly having to deal with your setup.
Don’t let comments like the parent scare you away from them.
Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised
#65They clearly are the state of the art of IDEs for most mainstream languages nowadays. It's easy for young developers to overlook the power of intellij IDES, and to use the "sexier" vscode. But clearly for any medium to large project, learning to master intellijs are one of the highest ROI that a developer can get. Of course, it should be mixed with ideaVim.
I generally prefer JetBrains' IDEs over vscode. However, vscode's remote editing capabilities just tipped the scale for me. Not too long ago I bought a "powerful" laptop (expensive!). It still chocked frequently when running multiple vm's, docker machines and/or multiple "auto-compile watchers". Then I tried vscode remote editing. I just run the browser & vscode in the laptop, and everything else on the desktop. It m…
Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised
#66Haven't used their IDEs for some time, but I really like DataGrip. While someone always knows of an open source alternative, it's the best full-featured cross-database tool I've found.
Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised
#67They are registered in Prague, but it's mostly Russian company. Depending on your line of business, this may or may not be an issue.
Do you have some proof? Otherwise it seems you are just posting to cause controversy. I feel this goes against a lot of the guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html edit: my apologies for the assumptions and most likely breaking the guidelines myself
It's trivially verifiable (I still switch between using Jetbrains and Emacs, not a dealbreaker for me).
Here's a press release on their website:
> In 2019, two eight-story towers known as Space became the new home of JetBrains in Saint Petersburg.
> The largest of our company offices is located on the bank of the Neva River, with a panoramic view looking out over the Gulf of Finland.
> IntelliJ Labs Co. Ltd. Primorsky pr., 70/1 Saint Petersburg 197374, Russia
Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised
#68I love IntelliJ but I am constantly switching between PyCharm and WebStorm, which is quite annoying since I end up doing python and javascript in both. I wish they one modular product instead of many, many slightly different products. Edit: I'm learning in the comments below that IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate gives you the capabilities of the other products all together. This sounds great! I'm going to try it.
Isn't that IDEA ultimate with the Python/JavaScript plugins installed?
Yes it is
Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
I recently went ahead and purchased theyr3 full product line, because I figured there are several I would end up wanting to use and it was just cheaper that way. The reason I bought it though, was specifically for CLion. I figured having a full featured IDE would make it much easier to browse and understand large C or C++ projects, but sadly it seems to only support CMake projects.
I also tried their CLion and was somewhat disappointed. Slow in places, sometime stalls, bugs here and there. Ended up using CodeLite and Qt designer
If you haven't tried it recently, I'd give it another try. They've had significant speed improvements with 2019.3, whereas 2019.2 was very slow
Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised
#70I can’t tell you how many times my use of very vanilla Emacs with zero jedi / autocomplete / search features has saved me in my career. It’s so critical to use text editors for software development and extract all other functionality to separate shell tools. If a mix of very simple vim or Emacs + grep / git grep / silver searcher + CLI tools for automatic linting, test cases, etc., isn’t efficient for you, and motiva…
Indeed - and those investing in higher-level languages such as assembly or C (gasp!) are tricked into believing those things are good for them - when really, they should be investing in learning machine languages, the purest form of programming for general-purpose processing circuits. /s
Honestly, programming languages, IDEs, Jupyter notebooks, etc. are all tools to help individuals solve problems using general-purpose processors. If you feel equally productive without some of those tools, that's fine, but there's nothing wrong with using those tools if they help.