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JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

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Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

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Jetbrains products are awesome though. I used to use a heavily customized vim which was a pretty good setup, but the things a jetbrains ide can do are just much better than what my custom setup could do. I pay for a personal subscription and couldn't be happier. I will recommend everyone to atleast give their products a try. They have a free trial period.

If you are a student or faculty, you can use their products for free - https://www.jetbrains.com/student/

Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

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Jetbrains products are awesome though. I used to use a heavily customized vim which was a pretty good setup, but the things a jetbrains ide can do are just much better than what my custom setup could do. I pay for a personal subscription and couldn't be happier. I will recommend everyone to atleast give their products a try. They have a free trial period.

I'm also a big of of their products, and pay for a persnal subscription for Rider, ReSharper, DotMemory, DotTrace and DotCover. Rider is absolutely stuffed with features, and is way more stable and performant than Visual Studio. I also like the way your renewal gets cheaper every year, as a kind of loyalty bonus. I honestly had no idea they were making so much revenue - very pleased to see it though!

I also enjoy DotPeek a lot more than the other .NET decompilers out there. I bought Rider, hoping the Visual Studio emulations would satisfy me (I use Visual Studio at work, but run linux at home) but sadly I have been unable to get it to work.

Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

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I badly want to use intellij for Rust and other languages. But the issue I smash up against is that years of Vscode + my customizations has made using any other editor terribly clunky. I can spend hours customizing the controls and UI but I still feel like someone handed me the keys to some old car made in a country that doesn't exist anymore. This in part revealed to me the cost associated with all the editor custom…

This is why we have dotfile repos.

i’m like 60% sure that this is why nixOS was born at all: some very dedicated emacs or vim user got so fed up with moving configs around that they built an entire package manager/distro/thing to solve their config issue for all time.

Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

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post #5

Jetbrains products are awesome though. I used to use a heavily customized vim which was a pretty good setup, but the things a jetbrains ide can do are just much better than what my custom setup could do. I pay for a personal subscription and couldn't be happier. I will recommend everyone to atleast give their products a try. They have a free trial period.

If you are a student or faculty, you can use their products for free - https://www.jetbrains.com/student/

You can also just search for their EAP programs and get them for free that way too.

Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are a student or faculty, you can use their products for free - https://www.jetbrains.com/student/

You can also just search for their EAP programs and get them for free that way too.

This is a great tip! I had no idea. Free beta (alpha?) builds:

https://www.jetbrains.com/resources/eap/

Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

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They are registered in Prague, but it's mostly Russian company. Depending on your line of business, this may or may not be an issue.

I think that is a harmful generalization and feeds on itself (more distrust creates more security measures which creates more the feeling that you need to secure yourself against this threat).

Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

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I can’t tell you how many times my use of very vanilla Emacs with zero jedi / autocomplete / search features has saved me in my career.

It’s so critical to use text editors for software development and extract all other functionality to separate shell tools.

If a mix of very simple vim or Emacs + grep / git grep / silver searcher + CLI tools for automatic linting, test cases, etc., isn’t efficient for you, and motivates you to bring all these things into one consolidated IDE, I urge you to consider that this is a type of bad code smell and bad workflow smell, the all-in-one IDE is not actually helping productivity but hurting it in the long run, and you should invest right away in the learning curve & barriers you perceive are blocking you from a purely shell command-line workflow that separates code management & search into isolated utilities in separate interfaces.

I do grant there are a very small number of use cases where the IDE approach is useful: helping students who are literally just starting out, helping developers with atypical accessibility constraints that can be assisted with the IDE, probably a few more.

But general code search, linter/test integration, and embedded features like autocomplete, pop-up signatures or docs, etc., are disastrously bad things hands down for regular development.

It’s such a shame that a whole generation of programmers are tricked into believing those things are good for them.

It reminds me of people tricked into becoming reliant on MATLAB or Jupyter notebooks, and then retroactively trying to defend those tools as productivity-enhancing when they are, from first principles, productivity destroyers.

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