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Re: A Dropbox account gave me stomach ulcers

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What are the advantages / disadvantages of going panic mode like this?

Would just increasing the size of the dropbox to keep things muddling along and then trying to figure out a migration strategy come Monday morning be impossible for legal reasons?

Re: A Dropbox account gave me stomach ulcers

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It should be noted that the evidence that stress is a primary cause of gastric ulcers has been fairly weak since the discovery of H. pylori, though there is some evidence stress may be a contributing factor.

FWIW stress is a contributing factor in pretty much all diseases we know. Particularly those where the immune system is active.

Re: A Dropbox account gave me stomach ulcers

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post #61

What are the advantages / disadvantages of going panic mode like this? Would just increasing the size of the dropbox to keep things muddling along and then trying to figure out a migration strategy come Monday morning be impossible for legal reasons?

Sounds like the big issues are at the compliance level. They’re in a time of the year where lots of companies have much more limited availability of engineering, management, and legal staff. Sure they could easily eat the cost of temporarily upgrading the Dropbox account. But as OP describes, there are huge implications in terms of security.

They didn’t find out until today that a number of senior staff were laid off during the acquisition. Lots of room there for bad feelings. That opens them up to all kinds of vulnerabilities from disgruntled ex employees.

Imagine the repercussions come post-holidays if something bad happens during the next few weeks before everyone is back on board and there’s a security breach over the meanwhile.

Re: A Dropbox account gave me stomach ulcers

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I worked in a software company once where we acquired a product to integrate into ours. It was developed by a self taught programmer in his 50ies that did versioning by making copies of the whole directory when he had something that worked, the way I also worked before university. Since he was the only developer and he was pretty good this mostly worked. His first name was/is Leif so from then on me and my friends speak of this style of "version control" as "using Leif Points". I guess because it is phonetically somewhat close to Save Points like in some computer games.

- Are we using git or Leif Points for this project?

- eh, how about git?

This story sounds like they also used Leif Points, but for their database :O

Re: A Dropbox account gave me stomach ulcers

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That was a cool nightmare scenario story, but holy mother of mercy was it ever tedious to read! I can tolerate some bad grammar, but somehow the combination of incorrect articles, words auto-spellchecked to something completely different, run-on sentences, and lack of punctuation, made it a real chore to read through without getting lost...

What? :)

I hope the OP writes a book with zero changes to his writing style.

OP, please write that book / collection of stories. Loved reading this, it makes me appreciate the culture and quality of work we have in our company.

Re: A Dropbox account gave me stomach ulcers

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post #35

I actually have had the reverse experience. My company was acquired 18 months ago. We were the smaller company, about 1/4 the size, and as the founder/CTO, I expected the acquiring company to be all over us. I mean, we had a pretty tight operation but there was only so much 16 people could achieve. There were plenty of things we could improve, and I was looking forward to the resources and experience of this bigger c…

> Service passwords are still stored in clear text in the corporate wiki. I know this painfully well :(. Can you recommend some good solution? Ideally open source and self hosted, instead of cloud password manager.

Disagree about the Cloud requirement.

Because: in this scenario you need to drive adoption first,if it is any complicated the humans will not use it. so you need the easiest tool possible.

when everybody is using it, THEN go for the real security move.

(you can try to find a non-cloud one that is super easy, but...)

Re: A Dropbox account gave me stomach ulcers

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post #21

What I find interesting is that the “insane asylum” apparently knew that it was wrong. e.g. when asked why they need so much space on their laptops, they were evasive. To my mind this makes it much worse. Not only were they doing something dumb, but they knew it was dumb, and they hid it instead of fixing it. It certainly invites speculation about the company culture in the acquired business.

Based on my experience: IT was well aware it was insane. Alas, IT got absolutely no budget for fixing it from top brass, as kicking the can down the road always made more sense short-term

IT of the insane company, or the acquiring company? Because the post says IT of the acquiring company didn't know until the problem blew up.

Re: A Dropbox account gave me stomach ulcers

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post #13

> 5. Audit has some explaining todo. Yes, that's a total fuck up on their side as well. That an incompetent company dies while doing stupid stunts like that is understandable and how the market filters out stupidity. That another company looks at it and thinks "Oh that looks fine", that's a total failure at their work.

What "audit" are we talking about here, though?

It sounds like he's referring to the due diligence as part of the M&A.

Personally I've never seen one of these discovery phases bring back anything remotely close to real life. No random IT manager alive is going to throw his dirty laundry out to a potential buyer and potentially torpedo a deal.

Some of the things I've seen/found during my company buying spree since 2015 have been magical.

Re: A Dropbox account gave me stomach ulcers

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post #27

Uh, as much as I enjoy reading this, posting this on Reddit seems particularly unwise for job security purposes. This seems to be an ongoing incident and there's more than enough info shared to de-anonymize.

I’ve come to the assumption that either this happened already months ago, or the much more likely scenario that it’s probably largely fake (if based on a true story)

It mentions December, so either that's a lie, it's recent, or it was December in some previous year.
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