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Ramen restaurant prevalence is associated with stroke mortality in Japan

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Re: Ramen restaurant prevalence is associated with stroke mortality in Japan

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People are just waking up to dangers of sugar, but too much salt is also not good, increasing blood pressure (see below link).

Potassium can offset much of the affects but it’s surprisingly difficult to get even the US recommended amount every day.

I’ve started using potassium salt instead of sodium salt in my cooking, and it feels great to kill two birds with one stone. Now I just need soy sauce and others without sodium to make my kitchen (nearly) salt free.

https://www.webmd.com/hypertension-high-blood-pressure/news/...

Re: Ramen restaurant prevalence is associated with stroke mortality in Japan

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How do we prove that they didn't just look at mortality in all diseases and for all restaurants, and cherry-picked stroke-vs-ramen because it has the best significance?

I am not accusing them of anything - I have no horse in this race. What I am curious about is: how do you prove that you haven't p-hacked, if you are going to do a study like this?

Sure, you can pre-register your methods, but presumably you can get the data and do some data crunching on it way before you have to pre-register. How do you prove that your results are legit in the age of reproduction crisis?

Re: Ramen restaurant prevalence is associated with stroke mortality in Japan

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People are just waking up to dangers of sugar, but too much salt is also not good, increasing blood pressure (see below link). Potassium can offset much of the affects but it’s surprisingly difficult to get even the US recommended amount every day. I’ve started using potassium salt instead of sodium salt in my cooking, and it feels great to kill two birds with one stone. Now I just need soy sauce and others without s…

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Re: Ramen restaurant prevalence is associated with stroke mortality in Japan

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People are just waking up to dangers of sugar, but too much salt is also not good, increasing blood pressure (see below link). Potassium can offset much of the affects but it’s surprisingly difficult to get even the US recommended amount every day. I’ve started using potassium salt instead of sodium salt in my cooking, and it feels great to kill two birds with one stone. Now I just need soy sauce and others without s…

Potassium is hard on your kidneys, probably okay if you’re young but increasingly worse for you as you age...

Re: Ramen restaurant prevalence is associated with stroke mortality in Japan

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How do we prove that they didn't just look at mortality in all diseases and for all restaurants, and cherry-picked stroke-vs-ramen because it has the best significance? I am not accusing them of anything - I have no horse in this race. What I am curious about is: how do you prove that you haven't p-hacked, if you are going to do a study like this? Sure, you can pre-register your methods, but presumably you can get th…

You don't at the level of this study. It's useful to suggest this is something that might be explored in a better, more clinical, setting.

The news might pick up and run with this, which is unfortunate, but so long as you don't view this as anything more than a suggestion of a relationship, you should be fine.

Re: Ramen restaurant prevalence is associated with stroke mortality in Japan

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How do we prove that they didn't just look at mortality in all diseases and for all restaurants, and cherry-picked stroke-vs-ramen because it has the best significance? I am not accusing them of anything - I have no horse in this race. What I am curious about is: how do you prove that you haven't p-hacked, if you are going to do a study like this? Sure, you can pre-register your methods, but presumably you can get th…

> How do you prove that your results are legit in the age of reproduction crisis?

You... try to reproduce them. The "reproduction crisis" isn't a failure of the scientific method, it's just pointing out that we've picked all the low hanging fruit (i.e. highly significant results) in science while increasing the amount of science done by huge amounts. So there's a lot of junk. Possibly (hopefully! I love ramen) including this paper.

But nothing has changed with how you prove your results are legit: do a similar study in a different location trying to find the same effect.

Re: Ramen restaurant prevalence is associated with stroke mortality in Japan

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How do we prove that they didn't just look at mortality in all diseases and for all restaurants, and cherry-picked stroke-vs-ramen because it has the best significance? I am not accusing them of anything - I have no horse in this race. What I am curious about is: how do you prove that you haven't p-hacked, if you are going to do a study like this? Sure, you can pre-register your methods, but presumably you can get th…

I guess the only reliable way is to have an independent group reproduce it using different data and publish their result.

Whenever theres something interesting shown in natural sciences you quickly hear about replication efforts being able or unable to replicate the results. In most other sciences there doesn't seem to be much glory in replication

Re: Ramen restaurant prevalence is associated with stroke mortality in Japan

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People are just waking up to dangers of sugar, but too much salt is also not good, increasing blood pressure (see below link). Potassium can offset much of the affects but it’s surprisingly difficult to get even the US recommended amount every day. I’ve started using potassium salt instead of sodium salt in my cooking, and it feels great to kill two birds with one stone. Now I just need soy sauce and others without s…

I can't stand the taste of 100% potassium salt. The Morton's 50/50 mix is just barely tolerable. It actually tastes better than regular salt when used to season avocados, though.
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