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Re: Having Kids

#331

“ when our first child was born. It was like someone flipped a switch. I suddenly felt protective not just toward our child, but toward all children” This happened to me two months back when I had my first child. Yes having a child has made me less productive with my work but I feel I’m happier now. Everyday I look forward to get home from work

> Everyday I look forward to get home from work

I have met people like that who do not even have children!

Re: Having Kids

#332

Hey guys. Anyone else have the experience of having kids, getting a burst of energy, but of course all that energy goes directly back into the kids and house, and you have absolutely no life for 3-5 years or more? Because my kids are 2 and 4 and so far it's been 4 years of no life, no freelance clients, almost no learning/hobbies, just 35-40 hours a week of working as much as I can at the office and then everything i…

The thing I miss most from pre-kid days was occasionally having time and energy simultaneously. Now it's one or the other.

Re: Having Kids

#333

Hey guys. Anyone else have the experience of having kids, getting a burst of energy, but of course all that energy goes directly back into the kids and house, and you have absolutely no life for 3-5 years or more? Because my kids are 2 and 4 and so far it's been 4 years of no life, no freelance clients, almost no learning/hobbies, just 35-40 hours a week of working as much as I can at the office and then everything i…

I read a sentence just before our first son was born that I’m glad I heard. “One day, your parents put you down and never picked you up again”. Every time my son woke me up in the night I would cherish every exhausted second of holding him.

Re: Having Kids

#334

Hey guys. Anyone else have the experience of having kids, getting a burst of energy, but of course all that energy goes directly back into the kids and house, and you have absolutely no life for 3-5 years or more? Because my kids are 2 and 4 and so far it's been 4 years of no life, no freelance clients, almost no learning/hobbies, just 35-40 hours a week of working as much as I can at the office and then everything i…

I was very happy to be a Dad. Up til around age 8 I was 100% focus on family / work. Side projects, consulting, friends, video games tanked.

It's gotten a bit better. (My daughter just turned 10) It's more like 95%. And each year I get a sliver more back. I think that in a few years more it should shift even more dramatically.

Re: Having Kids

#335

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. I do remember reading somewhere that the average current full time working mother spends more time with her children than a housewife in the 50s. Children used to go outside and play and have more unstructured time. I feel like there is this whole odd child-centric culture in the US. It is bizarre how many young adults I meet nowadays who have not been left without adult supervision for more than 15 minutes t…

We're American but live outside the US. Honestly our parent friends in the US seem sad and exhausted by comparison- the cult of workaholism is terrible for families, and the (guaranteed month of real pto/decent parental leave/shorter commutes/million other little things that make life less precarious) add up.

Wow, I don't think I had ever realised that connection; you're absolutely right. I guess if you don't live with an extended family, then more flexible work hours, or even 50% work (which is common in Europe I hear) makes a huge difference. Ha, more parental leave will make for less boring parents in addition to everything else :)

Re: Having Kids

#337

I don't like kids. I don't want kids. I'm 46 and single and I don't want to date someone with kids. It drastically reduces my dating pool but I'm willing to live with that. There are enough people on earth as it is. I don't feel like I need to increase that number.

That's a valid view.

Sadly many women with this view are discriminated against.

Re: Having Kids

#338

Hey guys. Anyone else have the experience of having kids, getting a burst of energy, but of course all that energy goes directly back into the kids and house, and you have absolutely no life for 3-5 years or more? Because my kids are 2 and 4 and so far it's been 4 years of no life, no freelance clients, almost no learning/hobbies, just 35-40 hours a week of working as much as I can at the office and then everything i…

This is me now. I’m working on https://losthobbies.com because I think it’s a real problem for people. It’s hard to get back to your hobbies and interests when life gets in the way.

Re: Having Kids

#339
I have a 9, 6, 3.5 and one on the way. My schedule for the most part has been 8-10 hrs on the day job, coming home for dinner and night rituals about 2-3 hours. On most week days I go upstairs when the kids have gone to bed and work another 1-3 hours on a range of things: Sometimes its finishing off stuff at work, most times it's own projects and learning. Thankfully wife uses this time sometimes to catch up on sewing projects, school grading so we're able to sit together. It's not ideal as we actually want to spend the time together but we do our best to just leave work alone and be with each other sometimes. We also try to prioritize when something needs to be done talked about/discussed. Another thing is we agreed I can use most week nights to work on my side project I am trying to bootstrap. We agreed it's a sacrifice we're willing to make for the time being. I think you have to be willing to experiment try and see what works for your relationship and family. I admit I'm not the best for getting 6-8 hours a night of sleep but average about 6hrs. I always remind myself to enjoy my family because I can now. Life is such that we can never tell what's coming around the corner. I don't want to regret anything looking back so I do my best to tell my wife and kids how much I love them. Kiss my kids often and try to pursue the dream in my heart about the side project. It's a lot and seems like a tall order but in the grand scheme of things it's a number of key decisions and choices each day.

Re: Having Kids

#340
A bit of survivorship bias going on with what Paul has written. He gives the example of having kids when I believe he was already financially secure and in a different place in his life than many people are when they have kids. That is not to say that the children are not wonderful (big YMMV there) but that he could (most likely) afford to sit back and 'smell the roses' with his kids. And enjoy the experience and be 'mr relaxed and happy parent' let's say.

Compare that to perhaps how it was for him (or for me) growing up. Parents under a great deal of financial pressure. (In my case immigrant parents one who came here with nothing one who grew up here with nothing). Work long hours (for both themselves and the kids) and when they get home from work not a bed of roses. Not having the luxury of having a Harvard degree either (as Paul has) (I have a good degree but the reason is my parents busted their asses so that I could get into a good school).

No such thing by the way as a blanket 'kids are a blessing' don't let anyone paint it that way. Sorry to rain on the parade. Plenty of people's lives don't revolve around the joy of children (whether they have children or not (I do)) and that's ok. I have kids but don't particularly enjoy doing any 'kids' things just not my thing. Nothing wrong with that. Once again it just seems like a box that some people want to put you in based on their own happiness and experience in life (or at least that is the way it seems).

You know you read it all the time. 'The best day of my life was when my child was born'. 'I want to spend more time with my family'. 'So you can spend more time with your family'. 'I love coaching my kids sports teams'. Picture of fun on Facebook. And so on.

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