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Re: Show HN: Browser-based PowerPoint alternative

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Post by hvdijk »

jeremysizle wrote: post #26
tobr wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instead of whatabouting it, maybe you can answer sadfklsjlkjwt’s question: do they know this is happening?

Recipients of Mailchimp campaigns have the same experience as recipients of Sizle presentations. They’re not told the sender will be notified when the document is opened however this type of tracking is fairly commonplace. For comparison, you might allow cookies from a website you visit regularly, even though they’ve notified you do you really know the extent to which you’re being tracked by a cookie like GA? A large…

Email recipients are generally notified by their mail client, despite the intention of the sender to keep it hidden. Email clients do not load remote images by default for this reason, requiring additional user action. Email clients warn users when the text of a link is one URL, but the target is another, for this reason.

Re: Show HN: Browser-based PowerPoint alternative

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Post by GordonS »

jeremysizle wrote: post #10

Hey all, Sizle is an alternative to PowerPoint for sales teams that need to see when their document was opened by a client, what slides they saw, time spent, and it can also automatically schedule a follow up with the viewer. Currently testing it with a bunch of companies here in Australia, but if anyone here is in sales and marketing I'd love to have you try out the (experimental) beta :)

Not sure how I feel about this level of tracking TBH. I can see how the data might benefit some sales teams, but mostly I think it'll be hoovered up, stored and nothing done with it.

Have you put consent mechanisms in place to allow readers to opt out of tracking, while still letting them read the document/slides?

Re: Show HN: Browser-based PowerPoint alternative

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Post by poniko »

osrec wrote: post #23
jeremysizle wrote: post #8

Sorry to anyone trying to visit the website, the traffic from HN has killed it :( Here's the direct login link http://dashboard.sizle.io/ And here's the PH post if you want some more info until it's stable again https://www.producthunt.com/posts/sizle-3

I've always wondered how much traffic a site receives when on the front page of HN. Would you mind sharing some stats, and your server size? And perhaps what was the breaking point was for your server in terms of traffic? Thanks!

We where on top 10 earlier this week and it generated somewhere around 100-125 concurrent visitors. Seems like OP needs to beef up the servers a bit. If one of those presentations go viral it will be a shit show.

Re: Show HN: Browser-based PowerPoint alternative

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Post by Angostura »

jeremysizle wrote: post #10

Hey all, Sizle is an alternative to PowerPoint for sales teams that need to see when their document was opened by a client, what slides they saw, time spent, and it can also automatically schedule a follow up with the viewer. Currently testing it with a bunch of companies here in Australia, but if anyone here is in sales and marketing I'd love to have you try out the (experimental) beta :)

So, if you intend to sell in the EU, don’t forget the reader will need to give consent to be tracked. And thus is an option you should build in globally too if you believe in people’s privacy.

Re: Show HN: Browser-based PowerPoint alternative

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Post by Angostura »

cruzah wrote: post #30
sadfklsjlkjwt wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is creepy. Do the customers know that they are being spied on?

I think these guys are being a bit precious and don't realise how much is tracked these days. All the email marketing campaign platforms do it, all the specialist quoting tools and line stores do it. Good work mate, keep going.

In this case the tracking is the only USP. If someone sent me a link to one of these I’d decline.

Re: Show HN: Browser-based PowerPoint alternative

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Post by kristianc »

jeremysizle wrote: post #26
tobr wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instead of whatabouting it, maybe you can answer sadfklsjlkjwt’s question: do they know this is happening?

Recipients of Mailchimp campaigns have the same experience as recipients of Sizle presentations. They’re not told the sender will be notified when the document is opened however this type of tracking is fairly commonplace. For comparison, you might allow cookies from a website you visit regularly, even though they’ve notified you do you really know the extent to which you’re being tracked by a cookie like GA? A large…

I don’t think this is necessarily untrue - but I do think you need to think carefully about what your talk track is on this.

Re: Show HN: Browser-based PowerPoint alternative

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Post by kristianc »

Given that many larger businesses are already going to have well established workflows around PowerPoint presentations that are going to be hard to shift, you may be better trying to control the ‘analytics’ portion of the value chain rather than the presentation creation segment.

Have you considered building a tool where people could upload their existing PPTX presentations into Sizle and access analytics on them? I can see that adding real value. At the moment you are probably limiting yourself to SMBs and freelancers.

Re: Show HN: Browser-based PowerPoint alternative

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Post by jfoster »

GordonS wrote: post #32
jeremysizle wrote: post #10

Hey all, Sizle is an alternative to PowerPoint for sales teams that need to see when their document was opened by a client, what slides they saw, time spent, and it can also automatically schedule a follow up with the viewer. Currently testing it with a bunch of companies here in Australia, but if anyone here is in sales and marketing I'd love to have you try out the (experimental) beta :)

Not sure how I feel about this level of tracking TBH. I can see how the data might benefit some sales teams, but mostly I think it'll be hoovered up, stored and nothing done with it. Have you put consent mechanisms in place to allow readers to opt out of tracking, while still letting them read the document/slides?

It provides more visibility into the funnel. Seems valuable. Whether it's ethical or not is something different.

Examples of the value it could bring:

Did the prospect drop off because they never even opened the presentation, or did they at least consider it?

After it's been opened, was it opened a bunch more times? Shows that it wasn't ruled out or glazed over.

How recent was it last opened? If it was today then we know it's still under consideration. If it was a month ago, seems like the lead has gone cold.

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