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Re: If this project is dead, just tell us

#31
post #8

Pipenv has spawned so much controvery.. One big shitfest. Python packaging in general is such a messy ecosystem

> Python packaging in general is such a messy ecosystem Not just messy. It’s probably worst in class. I at least can’t come up with a single worse package-management story which I do know of. Edit: I’m talking about platforms with actual package-management which sucks, not platforms with the absence of package-management all together.

C/C++.

Re: If this project is dead, just tell us

#32
post #8

Pipenv has spawned so much controvery.. One big shitfest. Python packaging in general is such a messy ecosystem

> Python packaging in general is such a messy ecosystem Not just messy. It’s probably worst in class. I at least can’t come up with a single worse package-management story which I do know of. Edit: I’m talking about platforms with actual package-management which sucks, not platforms with the absence of package-management all together.

Well, C/C++ dependencies are also a hell to reliably setup on different platforms.

Re: If this project is dead, just tell us

#33
post #18

669 commits in the last year... and asking if the project is dead? I'm a bit confused here. Maybe the project is mismanaged, or there's some upstream issue with package distro, but it seems to be far from dead.

He talks about maintenance and making releases. Otherwise people will still deal with bugs in the "current" release that have been fixed in the master branch for a long time.

Re: If this project is dead, just tell us

#34
post #9

This is all MIT licensed, if people care so much, why has nobody forked this? Why are people talking about jumping ship to a completely different project instead of forking and cutting a new release from there?

Title and comments in that issue thread show that people misunderstand how the FOSS works. Maintainer is not 'the project', it's the current direction that shapes incoming pull requests.

Re: If this project is dead, just tell us

#35
post #2

It does seem dead. The dead don’t speak. And no one is replying to this question.

There was a pull request merged a month ago. Looking at the commit history it doesn't seem dead to me. It might be more accurate to call it "poorly managed" or "uncommunicative".

Re: If this project is dead, just tell us

#36
For situations like this it would be very useful if there was a way to easily share or make use of PR:s and issues of forked repos. I mean it sounds quite unnecessarily labor intensive to just create a fork and start merging those PR:s?

That way the barrier for moving to a diffident fork would be lowered.

Re: If this project is dead, just tell us

#37

> I'm not mad, I don't think you're bad people, but the least y'all can do is be honest with us how entitled can someone be, you have the source code, if you're not happy why not contributing yourself? It is like some people don't realize most of these projects are other people working for free on their free time and giving that for free to anyone that feels like using it

Because only one person can make a release. That’s exactly the complaint: people have been contributing, a lot.. but the maintainer won’t release the contribution.

How would you feel if your fixed the bug patch more than two years ago, your PR was accepted.. but users still do not have the fix?

Re: If this project is dead, just tell us

#39
post #3

Why would someone choose to use a third party library when the first party solution[0] is more than adequate in the first place? [0] https://docs.python.org/3/library/venv.html

1. Because pipenv is easier to use. 2. Because it's not at all clear that pipenv is a third party library. It's made by the same group that makes pip, so it's confusing that pip would be considered a de-facto standard but not pipenv when it's made by the same group, and under the same project in Github.

pip is not yet in the standard library. as opposed to venv.

Re: If this project is dead, just tell us

#40
post #20

If there are no commits, maybe that means it is finished, stable, reliable? I would like more projects to be without commits and just work. I don't understand why there must always be new commits if everything already works.

You look at the issues list to see if this is the case.

This project has 313 open issues. No, everything’s does not already work.

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