Pipenv has spawned so much controvery.. One big shitfest. Python packaging in general is such a messy ecosystem
Biome. We no longer say ecosystem, we say "Biome".
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#22> I'm not mad, I don't think you're bad people, but the least y'all can do is be honest with us
how entitled can someone be, you have the source code, if you're not happy why not contributing yourself?
It is like some people don't realize most of these projects are other people working for free on their free time and giving that for free to anyone that feels like using it
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#23This is all MIT licensed, if people care so much, why has nobody forked this? Why are people talking about jumping ship to a completely different project instead of forking and cutting a new release from there?
The problem is the name, not the content. There are lots of guides, blogposts, etc which say “use pipenv, is awesome”. However, if one actually tries to do this, as the bug says, one gets a very old release with seemingly no chances for bugfixes, etc..
This means a bad experience for people who try to use it, and makes whole Python ecosystem feel a tiny bit worse too. Imagine a frustration of someone reading the blog post , spending all the time learning about system, using it, and then discovering bugs won’t ever get fixed!
It is very easy to fix by an author: just a small, 4 line commit to readme and website saying “the project is dead , go elsewhere”. This will allow people to move on - maybe to a fork, or to some other project which does similar thing.
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#24Pipenv has spawned so much controvery.. One big shitfest. Python packaging in general is such a messy ecosystem
> Python packaging in general is such a messy ecosystem
Not just messy. It’s probably worst in class.
I at least can’t come up with a single worse package-management story which I do know of.
Edit: I’m talking about platforms with actual package-management which sucks, not platforms with the absence of package-management all together.
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#25Meanwhile, Poetry just announced 1.0: https://python-poetry.org/blog/announcing-poetry-1-0-0.html
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#27If there are no commits, maybe that means it is finished, stable, reliable? I would like more projects to be without commits and just work. I don't understand why there must always be new commits if everything already works.
Because resumes aren't made by maintaining existing well-working software.
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#28This is all MIT licensed, if people care so much, why has nobody forked this? Why are people talking about jumping ship to a completely different project instead of forking and cutting a new release from there?
It looks like 1.4k people have forked it. The question is, which fork do I use? The problem is not that the source is unable to be updated, the problem is how to you organize peoples' efforts under a trusted maintainer long term? How do I know which forking effort to trust?
My understanding is that that's kind of the point of groups like the "Python Packaging Authority". So if they're not going to merge pull requests and do maintenance on the project, that IS a problem, since they're supposed to be the official version right now.
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#29Pipenv has spawned so much controvery.. One big shitfest. Python packaging in general is such a messy ecosystem
> Python packaging in general is such a messy ecosystem Not just messy. It’s probably worst in class. I at least can’t come up with a single worse package-management story which I do know of. Edit: I’m talking about platforms with actual package-management which sucks, not platforms with the absence of package-management all together.
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#30669 commits in the last year... and asking if the project is dead? I'm a bit confused here. Maybe the project is mismanaged, or there's some upstream issue with package distro, but it seems to be far from dead.
It may be abandoned by everyone with release permissions.