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Instagram Face: The rise of selfie make-up and quest for hyper-perfection (2018)

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Re: Instagram Face: The rise of selfie make-up and quest for hyper-perfection (2018)

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Post by CM30 »

addicted44 wrote: post #40
userbinator wrote: post #33

Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I can't say I find "Instagram Face" to be attractive at all. It looks ridiculously unnatural, and evokes the same feeling as those ultra-SEO'd mostly contentless sites that flood search results.

I wonder if that's true for people who end up spending more time on Instagram than elsewhere, and start finding the IG Face to be more "natural" and get weirded out when they see people with wrinkles and stuff. I'm assuming here that "natural" is a result of what you (and I, since I feel similarly) are just used to.

I agree with this. What's seen as natural definitely appears to be a result of what you're used to.

What's more, it's not just visual traits either. No, I suspect a lot of people feel an American accent is the 'norm' now as well, in part due to how much popular media originates in the US (and how many internet influencers seem to be from there).

And there are definitely quite a few stories of people assuming their own country/culture works like the US/Europe/wherever based on what media they watch and who they follow online.

Could be interesting to see a study about this stuff.

Re: Instagram Face: The rise of selfie make-up and quest for hyper-perfection (2018)

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Post by tsukurimashou »

dkersten wrote: post #130
userbinator wrote: post #33

Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I can't say I find "Instagram Face" to be attractive at all. It looks ridiculously unnatural, and evokes the same feeling as those ultra-SEO'd mostly contentless sites that flood search results.

Yeah I find it ugly. It looks so fake, almost like a dodgy 3D model or a cartoon. Not attractive at all.

Cmon, who wouldn't fuck a cartoon!

Re: Instagram Face: The rise of selfie make-up and quest for hyper-perfection (2018)

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Post by dwighttk »

I saw a similarly titled article in the New Yorker[1] twice before seeing this link. For some reason that author saw fit to only use words (outside of a drawing at the top of the article) to describe the effect which did nothing for me. Kudos to this author who actually included pictures.

[1] https://www.newyorker.com/culture/decade-in-review/the-age-o...

Re: Instagram Face: The rise of selfie make-up and quest for hyper-perfection (2018)

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Post by dwighttk »

wreath wrote: post #106
addicted44 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if that's true for people who end up spending more time on Instagram than elsewhere, and start finding the IG Face to be more "natural" and get weirded out when they see people with wrinkles and stuff. I'm assuming here that "natural" is a result of what you (and I, since I feel similarly) are just used to.

> and get weirded out when they see people with wrinkles and stuff. Well someday they will have to look around them and see people with wrinkles... in real life.. unless they are too hooked to their phones to even realize this.

AR facetune will save them.

Re: Instagram Face: The rise of selfie make-up and quest for hyper-perfection (2018)

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Post by kiwifan »

The one comment that stuck out to me in this article was the coworker who said she felt anxious whenever she saw the author of this article. Personally I am not someone who likes to wear a full face of makeup on a daily basis but the pressure to do so feels more present every day. A lot of this is because you never know when you will be photographed and end up on any social media platform. Even simple tasks like heading to the grocery store seem to require at least some mascara and eyebrows drawn on.

Re: Instagram Face: The rise of selfie make-up and quest for hyper-perfection (2018)

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Post by CraneWorm »

nostromo wrote: post #27
smacktoward wrote: post #22

The key takeaway here isn't that "Instagram face" exists or what it looks like, but that it's a product of two factors: the emergence of less invasive plastic surgery techniques, and of software specifically dedicated to producing these faces. This being HN, the existence of the software is the really interesting bit. It's called FaceTune: > FaceTune, which was released in 2013 and promises to help you “wow your frie…

My favorite FaceTune example: https://www.instagram.com/p/BmnSLiIF-Rl/

Direct image link for the no-js crowd?

Re: Instagram Face: The rise of selfie make-up and quest for hyper-perfection (2018)

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Post by zo1 »

dwighttk wrote: post #134
wreath wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and get weirded out when they see people with wrinkles and stuff. Well someday they will have to look around them and see people with wrinkles... in real life.. unless they are too hooked to their phones to even realize this.

AR facetune will save them.

You probably said that tongue in cheek, but that's probably where we're headed. People value their social media intensely, and the combination of the two will naturally happen as a consequence of VR/AR becoming ubiquitous in our lives.

Re: Instagram Face: The rise of selfie make-up and quest for hyper-perfection (2018)

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Post by teekert »

userbinator wrote: post #33

Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I can't say I find "Instagram Face" to be attractive at all. It looks ridiculously unnatural, and evokes the same feeling as those ultra-SEO'd mostly contentless sites that flood search results.

Yes, I agree! So this woman feels sexy and al I think it she looks like a doll. But still.. in a way it's also a supernormal stimulus for the opposite sex and is on its way to becoming the new standard, the same way people tend to descend into stranger and stranger fetishes and finding it harder and harder to get aroused by normal "human" partners.

I really don't like it. Though I will admit, such a fake face does tickle the fancy. As said, a supernormal stimulus. I guess when such make up can be applied in a second using technology, the world will change forever.

By the way, in "Stories of Your Life and Others" form Ted Chiang, there is a story where this sensitivity for beauty can be turned off, everybody does this but then someone stops doing it. It's a fascinating story, and very relevant, the story is "Liking What You See: A Documentary" [0]: "it consists of interviews with dozens of people at a high school in the US doing a pilot project with a future technique called “calliagnosia”. This is a neurological intervention that reliably and reversibly deadens that part of the brain that responds aesthetically to the human face."

[0] http://hugogrinebiter.com/?p=5604

Re: Instagram Face: The rise of selfie make-up and quest for hyper-perfection (2018)

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Post by tsukurimashou »

onion2k wrote: post #116
userbinator wrote: post #33

Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I can't say I find "Instagram Face" to be attractive at all. It looks ridiculously unnatural, and evokes the same feeling as those ultra-SEO'd mostly contentless sites that flood search results.

Why are you assuming it's supposed to be attractive? It's optimised for getting 'likes', not dates. The assertion that every picture of yourself is driven by a biological urge to reproduce is wrong. Humans do stuff for many more reasons than that.

Attractiveness is subjective, but most of the time, people find attractive the fact someone seems "open" for dates.

Re: Instagram Face: The rise of selfie make-up and quest for hyper-perfection (2018)

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Post by im3w1l »

smogcutter wrote: post #56
faissaloo wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I watched this great video on it from a while back where BoyInABand goes through an OkCupid study that actually says the complete opposite (unfortunately it seems like most of OkCupid's studies just vanished from the internet at some point): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLNwa_hoz4w

That okcupid stats blog was great, here’s a thread on reddit where someone archived them: https://www.reddit.com/r/gwern/comments/aapn1l/okcupid_blog_... To sum up for parent: in okcupid’s data, women considered attractive but not super hot got fewer messages than women who were less conventionally attractive but had more polarizing photos. In other words for most women it’s a better strategy to play up a look/featur…

Polarizing being good for dating doesn't necessarily mean it's good for influencers. In dating you want one person to like you a lot. So if you make the majority dislike a bit and the minority like you more that's great. But in influencing you want a lot of people to like you a little.
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