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Instagram Face: The rise of selfie make-up and quest for hyper-perfection (2018)

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Re: Instagram Face: The rise of selfie make-up and quest for hyper-perfection (2018)

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Post by adrianN »

dirtyid wrote: post #100
0x8BADF00D wrote: post #91

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It depends on the person, but many people’s bodies tend to be catabolic which makes gaining muscle hard - the so-called hard gainers. These males also tend to have feminine qualities in facial structure. TRT will probably help those individuals more w.r.t to muscle gain than steroids. Or RHGH.

I think somatypes like hardgainers have been debunked, the explanation being that predominantly, these folks are habituated to not eating enough, GOMAD etc. There's edge cases of medical conditions or training non-responders though. My main point is that western aesthetic standard for muscular men is increasingly moving towards more mass to the point where most individuals are below the bell curve for what's attainab…

Habitually not eating enough sounds like something that can be influenced by genetics.

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Post by silveroriole »

jetrink wrote: post #88
woodruffw wrote: post #66

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The existence of persistent cultural tropes around “not being like the other girls” is at least one piece of evidence to the contrary.

I think that comes from misogynistic stereotypes concerning personality traits. "Women, ugh, they're all so x. Not you though, you're different."

Funnily enough I only ever see women using the phrase to shit on other women for not staying in line. Woman actually likes tech/cars/whatever and doesn’t like makeup and fashion? Ugh, she thinks she’s “not like other girls”, she’s looking down on us, she’s just trying to impress men.

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Post by usrusr »

to1y wrote: post #78
turc1656 wrote: post #53

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Good for you. I never had any of those types of services except for Facebook and I never used that much at all. So, I don't know what it's like to "unplug" in that regard, but I can imagine how much it must suck to be in that spiral. I think in addition to the dopamine addiction, there's also some sort of neurotic or narcissistic aspect to it as well for many. I see it all the time with people everywhere. Women on th…

I think it's funny how 90% percent of these 'selfies' are taken in bathrooms. Used to be you went to a nice place and took a photo to show where you went. Now I think the average selfie taker doesn't even realize they are in a toilet, it is completely self focused. There is a fitting metaphor in there somewhere.

The way I remember early selfie culture is that it actually started in places like bathrooms and only spread to include location later. But those details do not matter, the real story is how bathrooms apparently became places of public representation.

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Post by voldacar »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #113
ydb wrote: post #90

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Agreed. Most of my friend group (women in their late 20s and early 30s) make this face and it just appalls me. I think Baudrillard's conception of simulacra & simulation [1] is the perfect vehicle for understanding the "uncanny valley" effect this creates. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacra_and_Simulation

Baudrillard is a hack of epic proportions. He's an example of the worst kind of French psudo-intellectualism almost on par with Lacan or Deleuze. Actually, bro the gulf war happened! And most of the book you linked is full of utter nonsense and crankery. His review of JG Ballard's novel "Crash" was the only good chapter in the whole book. Just because it was in the matrix doesn't mean that it described our world accu…

Over some time I have mostly come to this conclusion as well regarding most of the 20th century French intellectuals. Do you have any idea why they seem to retain so much influence and power in the academy this far into the 21st century? Is it essentially a matter of the emperor having no clothes or is there something more complex going on?

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Post by Cougher »

brenden2 wrote: post #39

I've really improved my happiness ever since I uninstalled these apps (IG, Snapchat, etc) and never looked back. I suggest everyone do the same. They get you hooked on a dopamine drip feed, instill feelings of inadequacy, and otherwise do nothing to improve your life.

"I suggest everyone do the same."

Your experience is not everyone else's experience.

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Post by Cougher »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #76

People use to strangle their feet to keep them small in order to be attractive for men. This is harmless by comparison?

One of the trends that's directly related to "this" is the trend of getting plastic surgery. That's a pretty ugly, disastrous road.

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Post by ossworkerrights »

pjscott wrote: post #109
ossworkerrights wrote: post #36

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Somehow i don't like this kind of reddits - gives me the impression they are hate-groups.

After looking through some of the threads there, I have to applaud the moderators. They're very explicit about not wanting to be hateful, and (if the number of deleted comments is any indication) they're very willing to enforce this. The surviving comments mostly focus on the photo manipulation.

Yes, but what is the point of that reddit?

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Post by ossworkerrights »

dang wrote: post #93
illinx wrote: post #16

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It doesn't seem like you read the article, which is about two specific technologies which did not exist in the 80's and 90's.

" Please don't comment on whether someone read an article. "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to "The article mentions that." " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I didn't comment on wether someone read the article. I stated that the description is accurate enough for it not to mandate a picture.

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Post by welluu89 »

I just don't think this kind of thing is good for anybody. Thinking, that a perfect face and body can exist or even should is unhealthy. It adds up to a lot young people, who are still trying to figure out, who they are and trying to get comfortable with their own bodies.

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Post by dkersten »

userbinator wrote: post #33

Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I can't say I find "Instagram Face" to be attractive at all. It looks ridiculously unnatural, and evokes the same feeling as those ultra-SEO'd mostly contentless sites that flood search results.

Yeah I find it ugly. It looks so fake, almost like a dodgy 3D model or a cartoon. Not attractive at all.
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