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Instagram Face: The rise of selfie make-up and quest for hyper-perfection (2018)

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Re: Instagram Face: The rise of selfie make-up and quest for hyper-perfection (2018)

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my little sister is (or wants to be) one of these, my wife watches them on instagram. I heard one woman talking about 'instagram brows' and she was just so fucking excited about how great her face and eyebrows looked. Here is this lady with the face (i've never heard it coined like in the article but I know it) and she has (tens?) of thousands of folks staring at her reinforcing the vicous cycle. More views, more fac…

This guy argues that "instagram brows" are drag queen brows: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVvhWQVbR-g. He's a makeup artist and criticizes it from the standpoint that drag is hyper feminine on a masculine face, so while women can (and probably should) draw inspiration from it, the general technique and shapes aren't appropriate for women. It's more artistic commentary than anything about the freedom to do it or politics of it.

Here's another video I ran across looking for that one where he demos and criticizes apps that influences use on videos to get clear skin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1lovMzixm0

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There's so much fakery going on, you'd might as well just assume that what you see is not real. See https://www.reddit.com/r/Instagramreality/ (Warning: may include slightly NSFW images)

Thats a decent sub that generally mocks terrible photoshop work for Instagram! LOL

The pinched waist with huge ass look... done badly!

Re: Instagram Face: The rise of selfie make-up and quest for hyper-perfection (2018)

#104

Related story in the New Yorker today: https://www.newyorker.com/culture/decade-in-review/the-age-o...

The author of that piece, Jia Tolentino, has a collection of essays called Trick Mirror. This quote pretty aptly describes the transition to the social-media-driven internet:

“At ten I was clicking around a web ring to check out other Angelfire sites. At twelve I was writing five hundred words a day on a public LiveJournal. At fifteen I was uploading photos of myself in a miniskirt on Myspace. By twenty-five, my job was to write things that would attract, ideally, a hundred thousand strangers per post. Now I’m thirty, and most of my life is inextricable from the internet, and its mazes of incessant forced connection — this feverish, electric, unlivable hell.”

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post #79

There's an analogous drive for men in western masculinity with the resurgence in gym culture and elevation of muscularity in media, particularly driven by physiques portrayed superhero franchises. We're rapidly shifting from Brad Pitt fight club "ottermode" bodies into some bignorexia territory. Though, it's much more self limiting, since you can't simply "buy" a well built physique, even with drugs unless you're an…

I thought the fight-club look was supposed to be back in?

Lean and purposeful looking.

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#106

Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I can't say I find "Instagram Face" to be attractive at all. It looks ridiculously unnatural, and evokes the same feeling as those ultra-SEO'd mostly contentless sites that flood search results.

I wonder if that's true for people who end up spending more time on Instagram than elsewhere, and start finding the IG Face to be more "natural" and get weirded out when they see people with wrinkles and stuff. I'm assuming here that "natural" is a result of what you (and I, since I feel similarly) are just used to.

> and get weirded out when they see people with wrinkles and stuff.

Well someday they will have to look around them and see people with wrinkles... in real life.. unless they are too hooked to their phones to even realize this.

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post #79

There's an analogous drive for men in western masculinity with the resurgence in gym culture and elevation of muscularity in media, particularly driven by physiques portrayed superhero franchises. We're rapidly shifting from Brad Pitt fight club "ottermode" bodies into some bignorexia territory. Though, it's much more self limiting, since you can't simply "buy" a well built physique, even with drugs unless you're an…

I thought the fight-club look was supposed to be back in? Lean and purposeful looking.

It was a years ago, I think there's a... muscularity threadmill that maps with the growth of fitness social media in the last few years that started prioritizing towards size via functionality and strength. It started with relatively attainable fightclub look, aesthetics that is preferred by women, but people who enjoy fitness culture rarely stops there (it's a comparably easy and attainable body type) so the trend gradually shifted towards getting bigger and stronger to impress other audiences in fitness culture (read: men and a revival of machismoism). You also have the parallel influence outside of fitness of hollywood action stars getting bigger as well. I could be completely misreading the trend, but male aesthetic standard changes over time.

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

reddit.com/r/instagramreality

Somehow i don't like this kind of reddits - gives me the impression they are hate-groups.

After looking through some of the threads there, I have to applaud the moderators. They're very explicit about not wanting to be hateful, and (if the number of deleted comments is any indication) they're very willing to enforce this. The surviving comments mostly focus on the photo manipulation.

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#110

I've really improved my happiness ever since I uninstalled these apps (IG, Snapchat, etc) and never looked back. I suggest everyone do the same. They get you hooked on a dopamine drip feed, instill feelings of inadequacy, and otherwise do nothing to improve your life.

>otherwise do nothing to improve your life. I overwhelmingly agree, but disagree in one regard; there is some signal in the scream of the noise and in not engaging whatsoever you miss that sliver of signal, which can be very important events in friend's/family member's lives they've chosen to document there, or maintain some sense of contact with people who are now geographically distant, etc. Overall their effects a…

This is the nuanced perspective I really like hearing. I think people still want some avenue to keep in touch with and interact with their friends and family online, when meeting in person might be too difficult (geographic distance for example).

I feel super passionate about addressing the existing toxicity of existing social networks and making something more positive and uplifting - preserving what you call the "signal".

I launched something recently on HN about what I've been hacking on here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21771456

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