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Instagram Face: The rise of selfie make-up and quest for hyper-perfection (2018)

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My favorite FaceTune example: https://www.instagram.com/p/BmnSLiIF-Rl/

Warning: if you click that link on some browsers it will remove your back button history by opening a new tab and killing the previous one. Instagram is aggresively user-hostile and if you work there you should feel bad.

When did it become ok to target individuals who work at companies? The last week I’ve seen an uptick in these attacks on HN, they come off as very “I’m better than you” SJW’y, totally oblivious to a person’s situation.

Let’s not turn this into a thing people do.

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I watched this great video on it from a while back where BoyInABand goes through an OkCupid study that actually says the complete opposite (unfortunately it seems like most of OkCupid's studies just vanished from the internet at some point): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLNwa_hoz4w

That okcupid stats blog was great, here’s a thread on reddit where someone archived them: https://www.reddit.com/r/gwern/comments/aapn1l/okcupid_blog_... To sum up for parent: in okcupid’s data, women considered attractive but not super hot got fewer messages than women who were less conventionally attractive but had more polarizing photos. In other words for most women it’s a better strategy to play up a look/featur…

I loved reading OkCupid's Blog but it rarely matched my experience with the site and the conclusions they reached almost always had other plausible explanations.

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I work there and I would feel bad if I could repro that issue, but it seems like a totally normal link for me, having checked chrome, firefox, and safari :S On mobile, clicking that link opens up the mobile app (which sends the browser with history into the background), but I assume that can't be what you're talking about...?

Ok I figured it out, it's Mozilla's Facebook Container plugin. Sorry HN doesn't let me delete the comment any more. This one is not your company's fault, though I still think you should feel bad.

This is so weirdly hostile. You essentially chose to have that problem, and yet you're blaming individuals in a company on a personal level? What...

Re: Instagram Face: The rise of selfie make-up and quest for hyper-perfection (2018)

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I watched this great video on it from a while back where BoyInABand goes through an OkCupid study that actually says the complete opposite (unfortunately it seems like most of OkCupid's studies just vanished from the internet at some point): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLNwa_hoz4w

That okcupid stats blog was great, here’s a thread on reddit where someone archived them: https://www.reddit.com/r/gwern/comments/aapn1l/okcupid_blog_... To sum up for parent: in okcupid’s data, women considered attractive but not super hot got fewer messages than women who were less conventionally attractive but had more polarizing photos. In other words for most women it’s a better strategy to play up a look/featur…

That’s one explanation. Another possibility is a more polarizing face makes some guys feel like they have a better chance. This is total speculation, of course, just offering up another way to explain the data. Could be a mix of both explanations.

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Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I can't say I find "Instagram Face" to be attractive at all. It looks ridiculously unnatural, and evokes the same feeling as those ultra-SEO'd mostly contentless sites that flood search results.

Let me guess, you also find most desserts too sweet?

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Ok I figured it out, it's Mozilla's Facebook Container plugin. Sorry HN doesn't let me delete the comment any more. This one is not your company's fault, though I still think you should feel bad.

This is so weirdly hostile. You essentially chose to have that problem, and yet you're blaming individuals in a company on a personal level? What...

They didn't say the person should still feel bad for the bug.

If I had to take a stab I'd say it's because they work for facebook. A company many people find to be unethical.

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I've really improved my happiness ever since I uninstalled these apps (IG, Snapchat, etc) and never looked back. I suggest everyone do the same. They get you hooked on a dopamine drip feed, instill feelings of inadequacy, and otherwise do nothing to improve your life.

Good for you. I never had any of those types of services except for Facebook and I never used that much at all. So, I don't know what it's like to "unplug" in that regard, but I can imagine how much it must suck to be in that spiral. I think in addition to the dopamine addiction, there's also some sort of neurotic or narcissistic aspect to it as well for many. I see it all the time with people everywhere. Women on th…

I think it's funny how 90% percent of these 'selfies' are taken in bathrooms. Used to be you went to a nice place and took a photo to show where you went. Now I think the average selfie taker doesn't even realize they are in a toilet, it is completely self focused. There is a fitting metaphor in there somewhere.

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There's an analogous drive for men in western masculinity with the resurgence in gym culture and elevation of muscularity in media, particularly driven by physiques portrayed superhero franchises.

We're rapidly shifting from Brad Pitt fight club "ottermode" bodies into some bignorexia territory. Though, it's much more self limiting, since you can't simply "buy" a well built physique, even with drugs unless you're an exceptional genetic outlier. It still requires years of dedicated training and continued maintenance. Though the fact that steroids are scheduled drugs makes pursuing these standards literally illegal in many countries, which is a separate topic altogether.

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If this site starts getting any traction, you're going to get destroyed by lawyers and copyright infringement claims, so I hope you're prepared for that. outline.com does basically the same thing, but they've had to exclude most of the major sites from working through it now. Outline even seems to make it difficult to find any way to identify/contact them, but it only took me a couple of minutes to find the identity…

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