A podcast that hacks Ring camera owners live
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Re: A podcast that hacks Ring camera owners live
#2It's obviously bad to hack into a citizen's systems without consent, but there's some kind of value that might be created here.
Ring cameras are basically being used as a gigantic police-partnered dragnet:
Amazon’s Ring Planned Neighborhood “Watch Lists” Built on Facial Recognition
https://theintercept.com/2019/11/26/amazon-ring-home-securit...
If this provides a disincentivize to an average user buying Ring cameras, their immature 'prank' may have unintentionally helped the nation.
Re: A podcast that hacks Ring camera owners live
#3I read this and I'm not sure how to feel. This is the real world impact of devices that can actually impact our lives being internet accessible and with security that doesn't match.
That's not to say a simple password and email isn't secure enough, just that there's much bigger repercussions when your nest gets hacked as opposed to your GrubHub account.
Re: A podcast that hacks Ring camera owners live
#4It's obviously bad to hack into a citizen's systems without consent, but there's some kind of value that might be created here. Ring cameras are basically being used as a gigantic police-partnered dragnet: Amazon’s Ring Planned Neighborhood “Watch Lists” Built on Facial Recognition https://theintercept.com/2019/11/26/amazon-ring-home-securit... If this provides a disincentivize to an average user buying Ring cameras,…
I disagree that it is a 'dragnet'. That seems like an emotionally-colored take. It is camera owners voluntarily sharing footage with police when they request it. Citizens are allowed to lawfully film in many locations (their own homes, public spaces, etc.) and citizens are allowed to voluntarily exchange information they own with entities of their choosing.
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#5If you have a Ring camera pointed at the street, this is literally what you are asking for.
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#6Have any children heard "Santa Claus" tell them to run across the street to get their present from the elf in the white van?
Re: A podcast that hacks Ring camera owners live
#7It's obviously bad to hack into a citizen's systems without consent, but there's some kind of value that might be created here. Ring cameras are basically being used as a gigantic police-partnered dragnet: Amazon’s Ring Planned Neighborhood “Watch Lists” Built on Facial Recognition https://theintercept.com/2019/11/26/amazon-ring-home-securit... If this provides a disincentivize to an average user buying Ring cameras,…
I disagree that it is a 'dragnet'. That seems like an emotionally-colored take. It is camera owners voluntarily sharing footage with police when they request it. Citizens are allowed to lawfully film in many locations (their own homes, public spaces, etc.) and citizens are allowed to voluntarily exchange information they own with entities of their choosing.
From what I’ve seen sharing these videos publicly also provides a potential thief with your location and information about the placement of your cameras, which is not a smart move if security is your main motive.
Re: A podcast that hacks Ring camera owners live
#8It's obviously bad to hack into a citizen's systems without consent, but there's some kind of value that might be created here. Ring cameras are basically being used as a gigantic police-partnered dragnet: Amazon’s Ring Planned Neighborhood “Watch Lists” Built on Facial Recognition https://theintercept.com/2019/11/26/amazon-ring-home-securit... If this provides a disincentivize to an average user buying Ring cameras,…
I disagree that it is a 'dragnet'. That seems like an emotionally-colored take. It is camera owners voluntarily sharing footage with police when they request it. Citizens are allowed to lawfully film in many locations (their own homes, public spaces, etc.) and citizens are allowed to voluntarily exchange information they own with entities of their choosing.
At some point quantitative changes to cost and availability make a qualitative change in the invasiveness of a technology. I don't know enough about how ring footage is being used to say whether or not it's crossed that point, but this can't be dismissed just because it's something that's always been legal and happening at a smaller scale.
Re: A podcast that hacks Ring camera owners live
#9It's obviously bad to hack into a citizen's systems without consent, but there's some kind of value that might be created here. Ring cameras are basically being used as a gigantic police-partnered dragnet: Amazon’s Ring Planned Neighborhood “Watch Lists” Built on Facial Recognition https://theintercept.com/2019/11/26/amazon-ring-home-securit... If this provides a disincentivize to an average user buying Ring cameras,…
I disagree that it is a 'dragnet'. That seems like an emotionally-colored take. It is camera owners voluntarily sharing footage with police when they request it. Citizens are allowed to lawfully film in many locations (their own homes, public spaces, etc.) and citizens are allowed to voluntarily exchange information they own with entities of their choosing.
Just the sheer scale of data collection by the Ring public-private partnership is worrisome already. Some of us worry about the amount of information held by Facebook, even those that do not have a Facebook account. The same principle applies here.
Re: A podcast that hacks Ring camera owners live
#10It's obviously bad to hack into a citizen's systems without consent, but there's some kind of value that might be created here. Ring cameras are basically being used as a gigantic police-partnered dragnet: Amazon’s Ring Planned Neighborhood “Watch Lists” Built on Facial Recognition https://theintercept.com/2019/11/26/amazon-ring-home-securit... If this provides a disincentivize to an average user buying Ring cameras,…
I disagree that it is a 'dragnet'. That seems like an emotionally-colored take. It is camera owners voluntarily sharing footage with police when they request it. Citizens are allowed to lawfully film in many locations (their own homes, public spaces, etc.) and citizens are allowed to voluntarily exchange information they own with entities of their choosing.
Consider if a police force was near omniscient, and could view everything happening in a city publicly, at all times 24/7.
Don't you think that changes the nature of things, even if technically legal?