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Re: Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copyright claim

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post #97

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They are currently being interrogated, not detained.

There was police raid in the office. After that founders were captured and brought to interrogation. If it's not "detained" then I don't know what any other meaning this word may have.

They were released and are at their homes now.

Re: Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copyright claim

#152
post #26

I see it this way (being a Russian): it's not a copyright claim issue, but rather a hostage situation with bandits involved (a.k.a Russian authorities), and what they want is ransom so that top #1-2 nginx contributors don't go to jail for some 10 years.

It's easy to forget just how corrupt government and law enforcement can get. In America, try to bribe a police officer and you'll quickly find yourself in jail. Other countries, it's almost expected that you bribe police (and indeed, the true reason you just got pulled over might be to shake you down)

Re: Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copyright claim

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post #152
post #26

I see it this way (being a Russian): it's not a copyright claim issue, but rather a hostage situation with bandits involved (a.k.a Russian authorities), and what they want is ransom so that top #1-2 nginx contributors don't go to jail for some 10 years.

It's easy to forget just how corrupt government and law enforcement can get. In America, try to bribe a police officer and you'll quickly find yourself in jail. Other countries, it's almost expected that you bribe police (and indeed, the true reason you just got pulled over might be to shake you down)

Driving in several of the Balkans since the 90s with German license plates always required keeping some cash on hand to buy the officer's lunch. It's probably not true any more for Croatia since its acceptance into the EU, but we still had this experience in Bosnia and Serbia up through the 2010s.

Re: Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copyright claim

#154
post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's easy to forget just how corrupt government and law enforcement can get. In America, try to bribe a police officer and you'll quickly find yourself in jail. Other countries, it's almost expected that you bribe police (and indeed, the true reason you just got pulled over might be to shake you down)

Driving in several of the Balkans since the 90s with German license plates always required keeping some cash on hand to buy the officer's lunch. It's probably not true any more for Croatia since its acceptance into the EU, but we still had this experience in Bosnia and Serbia up through the 2010s.

Doubt. Croatian police face hefty fines if they take bribe. Source: have several close friends in the police.

Re: Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copyright claim

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post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Driving in several of the Balkans since the 90s with German license plates always required keeping some cash on hand to buy the officer's lunch. It's probably not true any more for Croatia since its acceptance into the EU, but we still had this experience in Bosnia and Serbia up through the 2010s.

Doubt. Croatian police face hefty fines if they take bribe. Source: have several close friends in the police.

I think I might have addressed this in an edit while your comment was posting. I agree fully on Croatia. It could happen in the 90s but the country has changed a lot since then.

Re: Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copyright claim

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Russia has absurd IP hijacking rules that are being exploited.

I'm sure you can't name a single rule or law which is exploited in this case.

If I said "Britain has draconian libel laws" or "The US has absurd copyright laws" would I be wrong? Off the top of my head, I can't name a single rule or law that supports my claim, I only picked up a sense of that from reading the news. Likewise, I read articles like this and I get the impression that Russian IP laws are basically just tools for running extortion rackets... that's my simplistic layperson's take on the situation, but I don't really see any credible counter narrative in this thread.

Re: Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copyright claim

#157

This is why I am very glad to be an independent contractor without the pesky “inventions” clause. With “inventions” clauses, if I worked on my open-source MaraDNS while on the clock, a company could make a reasonable legal case that they own it. Even in California, where a company can not own inventions done on one’s own equipment in one’s own time (as long as it’s not related to their day job), before signing an “in…

Whoa, you created MaraDNS? Man, I love that software. Been using it for years. Keep up the great work!

Re: Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copyright claim

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post #152
post #26

I see it this way (being a Russian): it's not a copyright claim issue, but rather a hostage situation with bandits involved (a.k.a Russian authorities), and what they want is ransom so that top #1-2 nginx contributors don't go to jail for some 10 years.

It's easy to forget just how corrupt government and law enforcement can get. In America, try to bribe a police officer and you'll quickly find yourself in jail. Other countries, it's almost expected that you bribe police (and indeed, the true reason you just got pulled over might be to shake you down)

This is something we're working on though (in the US).

Re: Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copyright claim

#159
post #32

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It feels like an intelligence shakedown. Nginx has a rather large install base. FSB would love to have an entry point in it I'm sure, or maybe they previously had one and are trying to gain it back?

NGinx is owned by F5 Networks [1]. F5 customers could probably open a case and ask what contingency plans are in place. [1] - https://www.f5.com/company/news/press-releases/f5-completes-...

NGINX still has separate support from F5 Support.

Re: Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copyright claim

#160

Oh my, I still see people in the comments who naively think this is a copyright issue. Seriously? 15 years after the alleged event? With physical violence against software developers? It's only one among thousands of cases when putinists rob successful companies. The world must put more pressure on putinism, because eventually all the stolen resources turn into imprisonments of people in the country and deaths of peo…

It can be both a copyright issue and a corruption issue.
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