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If they own copyright.... Which isn't crazy... Then the licenseing Igor put on it is null and void I assume, so everyone's instance would become illegal upon that court decision?
I see it this way (being a Russian): it's not a copyright claim issue, but rather a hostage situation with bandits involved (a.k.a Russian authorities), and what they want is ransom so that top #1-2 nginx contributors don't go to jail for some 10 years.
wow, I would have thought those dudes would have moved to a more friendly country years ago given the fame and profits from creating nginx.
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In that case, who would pay the new "owner" for the now unlicensed parts provided by outside contributors? I see this having only two outcomes: either nothing happens (it stays BSD), or it becomes nuclear waste, and new owner cannot sell it because it is plagued by mutually incompatible legal status of different portions of the code. I can't see how the third version, where it stays clean, but the new owner can milk…
Well if it becomes toxic waste they could force everybody currently using it into licensing it from them. They could even try and go for damages for previous use.
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nginx is open source. I tend to use the distribution provided packages which in case of debian are reproducible builds. (yeah, i know there's a pro version of nginx. never used it)
"It's open source, someone surely is doing regular thorough security audits."
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I should remind you that there was a 1:342 ratio of "Not guilty" to "Guilty" decisions on the criminal cases in Russia last year, and the it's declining year-to-year.
I was interested in the ratio for the US, which based on a quick lookup seems to be 1:249 for federal cases... (Numbers taken from here: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/06/11/only-2-of-f... ) Just wanted to note that it is not a very good way to gauge opressiveness or fairness... In a perfect world, charges would only ever be brought against the guilty, and only the guilty would be found as such by court.…
I agree on a perfect world scenario, but we in Russia have a big pile of ridiculous court decisions every month.
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But this is absolutely a copyright issue! If a company has copyright on something I use, I need a license from them. Now we don't know what Russian courts will decide here, and we also don't know whether courts in other countries would respect that. What could happen as a worst case "robbery" scenario is that the developer is forced to agree they never had copyright! So whether or not the claim was unjustified, it mi…
I am not sure why this is being downvoted. If a Russian court determines (and/or the developer is forced to agree) that the BSD license was issued by someone who did not own the intellectual property, doesn't that create a significant legal issue for anyone who is using nginx under that BSD license since that license would no longer be valid? Doesn't the potential for this exact sort of issue point out a flaw in how…
I kindly ask you to stop believing that Russia is a place where unicorns shit with rainbow and courts work. No, they do not. And by not acknowledging putin's terror against us you literally deprive us of a right to become a normal country again one day.
(just in case, I didn't downvote the post above)
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"It's open source, someone surely is doing regular thorough security audits."
the thing is: you have to introduce very subtle bugs when the code is open. And if you exploit it in the millions someone is going to notice.
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Then they would definitely advertise it by attacking the company so that the whole world would know about their secret backdoor. Very smart, indeed!
Physical access is easier to get than remote access when you have a baton and the intelligence of a cop.
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But this is absolutely a copyright issue! If a company has copyright on something I use, I need a license from them. Now we don't know what Russian courts will decide here, and we also don't know whether courts in other countries would respect that. What could happen as a worst case "robbery" scenario is that the developer is forced to agree they never had copyright! So whether or not the claim was unjustified, it mi…
And yet, copyright is a civil dispute. I’ve never heard of a police raid due to copyright.