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We Only Hire the Trendiest (2016)

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Re: We Only Hire the Trendiest (2016)

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You need to present yourself as whatever image the employer/recruiter has in her/his head. For example my old employer thought that people who had their heir in a certain way was more structured and would be a better manager. Or the company might want do diversify, so they look for someone that is different. So in the end I think it's mostly about luck unless you are very good at figuring these things out.

Re: We Only Hire the Trendiest (2016)

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>When I started programming, I heard a lot about how programmers are down to earth, not like those elitist folks who have uniforms involving suits and ties. You can even wear t-shirts to work! But if you think programmers aren't elitist, try wearing a suit and tie to an interview sometime.

Indeed: http://web.archive.org/web/20140618142018/http://blog.42floo...

Re: We Only Hire the Trendiest (2016)

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>When I started programming, I heard a lot about how programmers are down to earth, not like those elitist folks who have uniforms involving suits and ties. You can even wear t-shirts to work! But if you think programmers aren't elitist, try wearing a suit and tie to an interview sometime. Indeed: http://web.archive.org/web/20140618142018/http://blog.42floo...

My university's career coaching always told us to dress at the level of the workplace + 1.

I think this is a good rule. You look good, but not awkwardly out of place. Perhaps it's an unfortunate social rule that we shouldn't have to follow, but I've learned to shrug my shoulder to a lot of such rules and just go with it.

Re: We Only Hire the Trendiest (2016)

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I play poker sometimes. When someone else at the table is playing incorrectly and making mistakes, you’re glad to let them go on doing that for as long as they wish (or until they bust out).

The unspoken corollary to everything written here is that it may be in your interest financially to be one of those “trendy” people (eww, yuck, ptooey). We do these jobs for money. So I’ll be trendy all day if that’s what works best.

Matter of fact, I even started out doing .NET. When I saw that wasn’t what was most highly valued, I switched tracks. Rather than considering my soul to have an indelible “.NET” stamp on it, and feeling hurt that all those mean recruiters didn’t properly value my experience.

If people are acting irrationally, you can either take them up on it and enjoy the rewards, or lament their irrationality. Up to you.

Re: We Only Hire the Trendiest (2016)

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I worked on a big C# system with hundreds of windows servers, developed on Visual Studio etc. It was an awesome project and everything worked like clockwork. However there are very few projects using that technology so when I wanted to move I had trouble getting interviews.

I'm now working with a very fashionable tech stack, its horrible, infrastructure is regularly broken, people can't trace problems easily, our functionality is still not as good as what we had in the earlier project 10 years ago. Still because we're trendy we get paid 2x as much and I get asked to apply elsewhere all the time.

I've given up trying to pick what is the best software platform/language. Just find the highest profile tech company and stick with what they do. Not only are they hiring but all the companies who copy that tech stack want the same.

Re: We Only Hire the Trendiest (2016)

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post #7

I worked on a big C# system with hundreds of windows servers, developed on Visual Studio etc. It was an awesome project and everything worked like clockwork. However there are very few projects using that technology so when I wanted to move I had trouble getting interviews. I'm now working with a very fashionable tech stack, its horrible, infrastructure is regularly broken, people can't trace problems easily, our fun…

There’s a lot of .NET jobs in boring fields like oil and gas - Houston has tons of them.

Re: We Only Hire the Trendiest (2016)

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>When I started programming, I heard a lot about how programmers are down to earth, not like those elitist folks who have uniforms involving suits and ties. You can even wear t-shirts to work! But if you think programmers aren't elitist, try wearing a suit and tie to an interview sometime. Indeed: http://web.archive.org/web/20140618142018/http://blog.42floo...

Reading this makes me want to wear a suit to my next job interview, though I’ve never worn one at the office.

Re: We Only Hire the Trendiest (2016)

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post #2

You need to present yourself as whatever image the employer/recruiter has in her/his head. For example my old employer thought that people who had their heir in a certain way was more structured and would be a better manager. Or the company might want do diversify, so they look for someone that is different . So in the end I think it's mostly about luck unless you are very good at figuring these things out.

Very true - there are often unofficial qualifications that aren't listed in the job posting too - things that would be strange to put into the official posting. We were hiring an analyst at my old company who needed to be tough. The job entailed performing statistical analysis, but also being the data liaison for some of our vendors. If the vendors were slow in responding or broke something, this analyst was the one responsible for getting them to behave.

We passed up several people who would have been a _great_ analyst, but definitely couldn't have managed the vendors. It got me thinking into how much of the hiring process is based on luck or other external factors that the candidate has no control over.

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