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Self-driving truck delivers butter from California to Pennsylvania in three days

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Re: Self-driving truck delivers butter from California to Pennsylvania in three days

#101

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Only if your win is continuing devolution of the middle class.

More automation is a win for the middle class and every other class. If a society chooses to violently deprive the middle class of economic resources, that's the fault of the police, not the automated economy.

The police might enforce the legal code of a system the funnels economic gains to fewer and fewer people, but they don’t come up with the ideas on which that system is based.

Re: Self-driving truck delivers butter from California to Pennsylvania in three days

#102
post #78

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Only if your win is continuing devolution of the middle class.

Truck driving is not and has never been a middle-class occupation.

False. Truck driving is one of the few steady jobs that remain middle class https://www.bls.gov/ooh/transportation-and-material-moving/m...

Re: Self-driving truck delivers butter from California to Pennsylvania in three days

#103
post #52

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That would be quite the feat given that I70 goes to neither of those states. I80 goes SF to NJ, but no single interstate will take you from SF to NYC proper.

I'm pretty sure the control city on 80 east is NYC and not Newark.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_80#New_Jersey

"I-80 does not enter New York City. [...] I-80's designated end (as per signage and New Jersey Department of Transportation documents) is four miles (6.4 km) short of New York City in Teaneck, before the Degraw Avenue overpass."

Re: Self-driving truck delivers butter from California to Pennsylvania in three days

#104

They were delivering butter... to Pennsylvania? TIL: California is the nation's leading milk producer, New York is fourth, Pennsylvania is 7th.

Yeah that doesn't make much sense to me. Local brands of butter made with local dairy are popular in Pennsylvania. It's alarming to think how environmentally inefficient shipping butter two thousand miles must be.

Cross-promotional deal?

Re: Self-driving truck delivers butter from California to Pennsylvania in three days

#105
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Yeah that doesn't make much sense to me. Local brands of butter made with local dairy are popular in Pennsylvania. It's alarming to think how environmentally inefficient shipping butter two thousand miles must be.

One can not forget the genius product that is Fiji Water[1]. Thinking about what happened to get that bottle into the fridge of my bodega makes me shudder. 1: https://www.fijiwater.com/faqs.html "IS FIJI WATER FROM FIJI? One hundred percent of FIJI Water is from a single source in the pristine, tropical Fiji Islands, an archipelago of over 300 islands nestled in the South Pacific, more than 1600 miles from the neares…

I hope you don't buy it.

I've seen it for sale in Europe, which is as far from Fiji as one can be.

They must have a very effective marketing team. It seems every US TV show has Fiji water in the fridge.

Re: Self-driving truck delivers butter from California to Pennsylvania in three days

#106
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“the truck drove mostly autonomously.” That last 10% is going to be a lot of work. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninety-ninety_rule

> The truck... had to take scheduled breaks but drove mostly autonomously. There were zero “disengagements,” or times the self-driving system had to be suspended because of a problem

These seems to imply short bursts of voluntarily shutting off auto-drive; I'd be curious to understand the rationale for when the two human copilots did so.

Re: Self-driving truck delivers butter from California to Pennsylvania in three days

#108

Sure, it proved it can do an autonomous truck Cannonball run, but why not produce and use locally? Not as some hippy-dippy thing, but it seems like a waste of petroleum to truck products clear across the entire country when there's enough land and resources to make the same or similar products nearer to the points of consumption. Common. sense.

It isn't like we never tried your idea. That's exactly how it worked for decades & centuries and then the world discovered shipping stuff from far away works better.

Yes, obviously about the past. .. and it also worked. You say "better" but you don't give any evidence to support your claim other than it's implicitly the status quo. Furthermore, shipping things halfway around the world is killing us in terms of carbon emissions. Hyperlocal manufacturing + regional manufacturing is inevitable because we cannot afford to keep that near vertical CO2 graph going up another 100 ppm.

Also, corporate giant agribusinesses with their pesticide residues and crop monocultures will likely lead us into illnesses and famines from "unexpected" crop failures by putting all their "eggs" into one clone crop "basket" and one region "basket."

Re: Self-driving truck delivers butter from California to Pennsylvania in three days

#109

For better or worse, millions of truck drivers are going to be displaced. Just like the way robots replaced manufacturing jobs. The best plan is to prepare, like Yang and others are saying: https://www.yang2020.com/policies/trucking-czar/ So we can soften the blow.

They already have been displaced largely due to propaganda which is why we have record remuneration and demand for truck drivers. Musk already failed the 2020 goal, so I think it's important to decide when exactly they will be replaced. Will they replace log truck drivers in New Zealand like my brother, who has a ton of responsibilities other than just driving on single-lane off-road tracks (which requires special protocols for safety, etc)?

Re: Self-driving truck delivers butter from California to Pennsylvania in three days

#110

What is my purpose. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7HmltUWXgs

My favorite variation on this meme is where the robot is labeled “clisp” (a less popular Lisp implementation) and its purpose is “to bootstrap sbcl” (a popular Lisp implementation)
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