I think another government (France?) paid several million EUR for a jingle for the World Exhibition. It was made by the band Kraftwerk, but still.
A favicon? That’ll be £585 please.
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Re: A favicon? That’ll be £585 please.
#52£1 for the new favicon, £584 for knowing how to do it.
> £584 for knowing how to do it.
1) Draw crappy icon in any of the zillion free icon editors out there (e.g. IconEdit32).
2) Name the file 'favicon.ico' and upload it to the root directory of the website.
I have a feeling I should be doing consulting in the UK or something.
Re: A favicon? That’ll be £585 please.
#53£1 for the new favicon, £584 for knowing how to do it.
> £584 for knowing how to do it. 1) Draw crappy icon in any of the zillion free icon editors out there (e.g. IconEdit32). 2) Name the file 'favicon.ico' and upload it to the root directory of the website. I have a feeling I should be doing consulting in the UK or something.
Knowing how to do it naturally includes "knowing how to land the job".
Not as easy as it sounds.
Re: A favicon? That’ll be £585 please.
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
How does that have any impact on the cost of a favicon? Unless they were charged per FTP transfer...
I wonder if they were the ones who set the favicon up so it worked on their server. If that's the case, diving around someone else's code for £585 is pretty cheap.
Behold, the magic of Apache (or pretty much any web server) ...
Alias favicon.ico /path/to/your/physical/location/favicon.ico
Re: A favicon? That’ll be £585 please.
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ok, lets say it didn't take 5 minutes. Lets say it took 3 hours for a designer to make the favicon pixel by pixel, and 1 hour for a developer to upload the favicon to the server (maybe he only has one arm or something, I don't know, bare with me.) That's ~$230/hr. Really, you can't argue that this wasn't crazy expensive. However, when it comes to government waste this is a pretty trivial example.
Well, you forgot the 2 hour meeting to get approval of everyone involved, then the changes needed after the team weighed in, another meeting for final approval (assuming there was only one round of revisions - this is government here) and then actual implementation. You also forgot the time it took the designer to come up with the original concept - you can't just sit down and produce a production-ready favicon witho…
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Re: A favicon? That’ll be £585 please.
#56That's disgraceful... I don't know what else to say.
If you've never done work on a government contract you can imagine how this simple favicon might've gone through fifty revisions. On highly technical projects people with no technical skill tend to latch on to the little things they do understand and want to meddle with them endlessly. This is the "Bike Shed Principle" or Parkinson's Law of Triviality ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinsons_Law_of_Triviality )
For those who have too little time to bother with broken links, the article is located at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_Law_of_Triviality
Re: A favicon? That’ll be £585 please.
#571) They said that the favicon was not quoted from the contracter separately. Clearly the listed price is from some weird government formula. (Although, the original document DOES list it separately) 2) I'll bet something like Google's favicon cost WAY more than that. 3) 600 pounds isn't all that much when consulting work hourly rates are compared against it, and is practically nothing if they paid an actual designer.…
True, but this DOES look like a five minute project. I just screen-grabbed their large logo, put it into Photoshop, reversed the colors and reduced it to 16x16, and it looks almost exactly the same as their icon - no pixel-pushing required. Sure, the colors aren't perfect, but any semi-decent graphic designer could produce that favicon (from the original logo) in 10 minutes maximum. It's not a complicated face, or an…
You don't really know the back story. Neither do I, but I've been here before, as I'm sure you must have.
What about the 3-5 comps the graphic artist did that were rejected by committee? Let's say there's 5 hours there. Then a meeting where some others sketch up their own ideas which could be done in MS Paint.
Then the artist gets to go back and implement that idea, which indeed probably took 5 minutes. But you still bill for an hour of your time, right? :)
Re: A favicon? That’ll be £585 please.
#58I've seen much worse. One being a client billed 7 hours x roughly $150 for... wait for it... modifying a dns entry...
This is not a joke, and it was a pretty sizable dev shop here in iceland
Re: A favicon? That’ll be £585 please.
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wonder if they were the ones who set the favicon up so it worked on their server. If that's the case, diving around someone else's code for £585 is pretty cheap.
Behold, the magic of Apache (or pretty much any web server) ... Alias favicon.ico /path/to/your/physical/location/favicon.ico Now please give £300 for selling you this tip.
Here's £150, because you only told me how to do it on one server :P
Curiosity: does that work for subdomains with different favicons?
Re: A favicon? That’ll be £585 please.
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ok, lets say it didn't take 5 minutes. Lets say it took 3 hours for a designer to make the favicon pixel by pixel, and 1 hour for a developer to upload the favicon to the server (maybe he only has one arm or something, I don't know, bare with me.) That's ~$230/hr. Really, you can't argue that this wasn't crazy expensive. However, when it comes to government waste this is a pretty trivial example.
Well, you forgot the 2 hour meeting to get approval of everyone involved, then the changes needed after the team weighed in, another meeting for final approval (assuming there was only one round of revisions - this is government here) and then actual implementation. You also forgot the time it took the designer to come up with the original concept - you can't just sit down and produce a production-ready favicon witho…
Bingo.
And there's no mention of the half dozen favicons the designer had to come up with in order to get one through all the layers of approval involved.