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Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Did you tough about removing the account creation at the start. This seem to me as unnecessary friction to try it out.

You're not wrong, but to be honest, no, not very much. It might make an appreciable difference in "conversions" (to using the app) for the Hacker News crowd, but I'm not sure if it's justified in the general case, for these reasons: 1. A lot of the features are oriented around having some identity. There would need to be a lot of special cases in the code to support account-free use. 2. Ultimately the app will be som…

I'd immediately delete it. And I have done so with several other applications. Time-limited trials don't need anything other than the time limit and usefulness to make paying customers out of trial downloads.

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Running into problems on MacOS Catalina 10.15.2 (MacBook Pro 2019 16" model). My mic isn't being detected for some reason. I tried messing with the settings and running the "Latency Calibration" but it just says "We were unable to measure the system latency". Can't determine what's wrong as GarageBand and the System Preferences both show it as working.

Also, just a minor bug I found - if you have a song already loaded then it will play on top of the test tones in the Latency Calibration menu.

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Some other thoughts. It would be great to show the tuning somewhere while the track is being played. I keep forgetting to tune my guitar until after I've selected the track to play.

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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This looks very interesting. Alas, it doesn't pass security on Mac OS Mojave.

I'm repeating myself but just to put this near the root of this thread: You should be able to right-click on the application icon and choose "open" from the context menu that pops up to make this problem go away. (Assuming you trust the developer, of course.) This message is just a more strongly worded (and less convenient) version of the dialog that has always come up when opening side-loaded apps for the first time…

I had to hold control while right-clicking for this to show up. Thanks though.

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I spent a while trying to figure out if this was free (not just to download, but to use fully) or would require some kind of paid account. Maybe you could make that clearer?

That's great feedback, thanks. To clarify: it is totally free to download and use right now and will continue to be for at least several months. Eventually payment will be required, probably in the form of a subscription plan.

> subscription plan

Please reconsider this. If this is a local app, then I see no reason for adopting a subscription plan.

I am interested, but right now guitar is a hobby I can afford only a couple of times a week. Paying a subscription would have a different impact on, who like me, is an occasional player.

Otherwise I can stick with Guitar Pro for eternity.

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Okay, I'm probably your exact target demographic - I have about 1,300 hours in Rocksmith and I'm obsessed with it, but often find myself wanting more "pro" features like Guitar Pro has. So hopefully you'll find my feedback useful... On the tab interface: - Seeing a blob of 6 numbers come isn't intuitive enough. The strings REALLY need to be colored. You should be able to get away with using the same colors as Rocksmi…

Personally I switched from Rocksmith to goPlayAlong, mostly because it syncs audio to tabs. It does not do note recognition, but I had more trouble in rocksmith than its worth. Notes that do not get recognized for some reason. My low e string has trouble getting recognized even though its in tune.

I've also realized that its not a good idea psychologically. You basically remove the "did I play it correctly and did it sound good?" part from your brain, and rely on a external system to provide that feedback for you. This would be no issue if these tools could gauge that better, going beyond "does the input have the correct frequencies at the correct times?". It does not recognize fret buzz, it does not recognize you slightly panicing but still hitting the correct notes.

So in goPlayAlong I just select the parts I wanna work on (you can not just select bars, but also single notes), make sure the pitch is correct (it has halftone + semitone corrections), slow it down to the tempo I want to work on. Then I play it a few times. If I am happy with how it sounds, I press the + key on my keyboard to increase the tempo by 5%.

It also has a trainer mode which increases the speed after a set amount of playthroughs (of the section), by a set amount of speed. So increase 1% every 5repeats for example. I use it when I am more focused on improving speed.

It also has a very tight feedback loop. After it played the last note of the section it straight goes into the first note of the section again. No "You did great", no playing 5 seconds after and before the section like rocksmith does.

Unfortunately it costs something like 40$. After trying the demo and the song syncing I instantly bought it. I was very impressed it was able to accurately sync a live version of a song to the tab, accurately.

The only thing I miss about it is beeing able to edit the tabs.

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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For anybody interested in guitar tabs and great tech, Soundslice is a community built around learning music from tabs synced with real recordings.

https://www.soundslice.com/community/ is a good place to start. You can follow people to get updates on their posts (licks, transcriptions), it has a fully baked notation/tab editor, it imports GuitarPro/MusicXML/PowerTab/TuxGuitar files, and it's just really damn good. (Disclaimer: I am the developer.)

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Looks very cool will try this out and report back but just curious first thing that comes to mind, how are you differentiating between the several frets that could produce the same note, or for example 6th string 5th fret(A) vs open 5th string(A) ?

Right now for pitch-detection purposes I'm not differentiating between them. If you produce a sound of the right pitch and octave that's considered a "hit" regardless of which fret or string you used to create it. Personally I see that as a feature, but I guess if you wanted to be very prescriptive about fingering for educational/training reasons I can see the value in treating them differently. There is some subtle…

Well, for chords not differentiating between them is correct anyway, since you can play different voicings.

The string detection is a good idea imho

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Hi everyone. I'd like to introduce you to a side project I've been working on for a little while now. FATpick ( https://www.fatpick.com/ ) is a practice tool for guitar (and bass) that helps you learn to play new songs, improve your skills and stay motivated to keep playing. It's an auto-scrolling tablature viewer, synchronized with backing tracks, that listens as you play along with any guitar, providing immediate f…

Have you considered supporting ukulele tabs?
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