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I'm curious how they attract people to work for them, if it's common knowledge they are terrible to work for? Is that there just aren't enough other, better warehouse jobs? The few folks I have known who worked in warehouses (non-AMZN ones) generally didn't like the work, but I didn't hear outright horror stories like these.
Man, Amazon is is one asshole of a company. I wonder what people like Bezos actually thinks about these workers. Whether they are even considered human or not. I guess not.
Liabilities in need of replacement by robots.
Doesn’t replacing them with robots actually sound like a viable solution?
The market demands this work, but we recognize it’s unreasonable to subject humans to these conditions.
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Liabilities in need of replacement by robots.
Not to defend Amazon here, but if the market demands cheaper products, which necessitates a ton of labor, and laborers are being overworked... Doesn’t replacing them with robots actually sound like a viable solution? The market demands this work, but we recognize it’s unreasonable to subject humans to these conditions.
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Not to defend Amazon here, but if the market demands cheaper products, which necessitates a ton of labor, and laborers are being overworked... Doesn’t replacing them with robots actually sound like a viable solution? The market demands this work, but we recognize it’s unreasonable to subject humans to these conditions.
That depends on if you’re on the side of the capitalist or the side of labor. Capital holders would take that point of view but labor might say capital should make the work more reasonable and hire more labor to make up the difference.
I'm curious how they attract people to work for them, if it's common knowledge they are terrible to work for? Is that there just aren't enough other, better warehouse jobs? The few folks I have known who worked in warehouses (non-AMZN ones) generally didn't like the work, but I didn't hear outright horror stories like these.
Why don't the workers unionize? Oh, because Amazon is run by a bunch of amoral people. The leadership is inhumane. https://gizmodo.com/amazons-aggressive-anti-union-tactics-re... https://www.vox.com/2019/3/22/18277322/amazon-fired-warehous... https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/22/how-amazon-is-fighting-back-...
Unemployment is very low right now, so I'm sure there are plenty of other jobs available. The fact that people continue to work for Amazon suggests that quitting is worse than continuing to show up at work, so I'm really not sure what people expect. I'm guessing it's just that Amazon is seen as a tech company and therefore is expected to treat their warehouse workers closer to tech employees than warehouse employees?
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But what could we be doing to stop this from happening? Could it be that we need more granular binning of people between part time to full time work, with increasingly increased full time rights?
Well, the most obvious is to have some sort of universal health care coverage that can be separated from your place of employment.
I think we should remove all incentives for employers to offer insurance and require employers to make the cash value of any benefits available to employees upon request (and make that option clear at hiring time). Basically, when your employer shows you a "total compensation" amount, you should be able to get that in your paycheck if you so choose.
I also think we should encourage (maybe require) insurance companies to offer long-term contracts at a fixed rate, adjusted only to account for inflation and changing costs (uniform across all customers). We can continue the subsidies for poorer people if we want. This would essentially be a market-driven "universal healthcare", but it's opt-in.
Maybe we need universal healthcare, but I feel like that's a bit overkill. I feel like we can ease into it by expanding on the ACA and getting more people to get insurance outside of their employment.
I'm curious how they attract people to work for them, if it's common knowledge they are terrible to work for? Is that there just aren't enough other, better warehouse jobs? The few folks I have known who worked in warehouses (non-AMZN ones) generally didn't like the work, but I didn't hear outright horror stories like these.
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Well, the most obvious is to have some sort of universal health care coverage that can be separated from your place of employment.
I agree with the second part (separate health insurance from employment), but I disagree that we need universal health care. I think we should remove all incentives for employers to offer insurance and require employers to make the cash value of any benefits available to employees upon request (and make that option clear at hiring time). Basically, when your employer shows you a "total compensation" amount, you shoul…
A Family of 4 in their 40s are in for what, $1800 a month for health insurance? If your total income is $5000 a month you just don’t pay it.
You still go to the ER when you get real sick, but you just deal with it then.