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Re: Show HN: Kong – Physical Cryptocurrency

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Hi folks, I’m one of the contributors at Kong — https://kong.cash/. Kong is a physical cryptocurrency that looks, feels and works like traditional cash. You can think of it as an ultra-secure, time locked cryptocurrency wallet with a fixed face value — no one can access the token except for the holder of the note after a period of several years. It consists of a secure element and NFC chips mounted on a flexible PCB with a full color print. There are several gold elements that also serve as direct i2c interfaces to challenge the secure element’s authenticity by signing information with its private key.

Kong is based on two primary observations; (1) it’s really difficult to use and secure cryptocurrency for most people and (2) cryptocurrency has been useful as a means of speculation, but poor for actually buying goods and services. It’s our hypothesis that by making cryptocurrency more like cash it may be possible that people ultimately use it as a means of exchange.

Our background is in secure embedded hardware (Lockitron, YC S09); over the past year we did a deep dive to really consider how cryptocurrency key material is handled today. We found that cryptocurrency has a unique challenge and corresponding opportunity; unlike IoT products where the cost of a breach might be difficult to quantify, breaking a hardware wallet can yield clear rewards to the hacker.

We developed Kong around the notion that security should be isolated to the smallest possible footprint — in the case of Kong, to an individual single purpose secure element chip. Doing so removes additional layers of firmware and software in order to limit the attack surface (it also broadly questions how good are our existing secure chips today).

To date we’ve handed out close to 2,500 Kong notes; we’re now exploring more ways to distribute physical crypto. Take a look at https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmRNRCocj4PwKMXrd1jeUGw7ASQSuEk7BDJu5Ks... for an in-depth technical overview.

Re: Show HN: Kong – Physical Cryptocurrency

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Hi folks, I’m one of the contributors at Kong — https://kong.cash/ . Kong is a physical cryptocurrency that looks, feels and works like traditional cash. You can think of it as an ultra-secure, time locked cryptocurrency wallet with a fixed face value — no one can access the token except for the holder of the note after a period of several years. It consists of a secure element and NFC chips mounted on a flexible PCB…

> with a fixed face value

So how does a transaction work? Do I exchange a 500 kong note for a 10 kong item and 490 kong worth of notes?

Re: Show HN: Kong – Physical Cryptocurrency

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How does this work? Is the first 2,500 part of your own ICO?

There is no ICO.

We're selling packs of Kong in a limited fashion to cover the costs of manufacturing the hardware. We have a limited number of units available so we're slowly opening up sales to our mailing list.

Take a look at sections 4.2 and 4.3 of the paper for information on our lockdrop; this is the only other way to get Kong token. Lockdrops are a novel means of distributing token based on opportunity cost rather than selling the token.

Re: Show HN: Kong – Physical Cryptocurrency

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I fail to see how this solves a usability issue in developed nations. This also reintroduces the portability problems that are present in current fiat.

Japan is a fairly cash heavy developed nation. Likewise, the majority transactions under $25 in many countries are still conducted using cash. We don't necessarily expect people to revert to using cash; rather, Kong is a means of handling cryptocurrency that's vastly easier to understand as an introduction to cryptocurrency.

The usability problems are also a feature -- if Kong is burned, stolen or otherwise destroyed, the value is lost forever. Billions of people understand that's how cash functions and they take measures to secure it.

Re: Show HN: Kong – Physical Cryptocurrency

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Hi folks, I’m one of the contributors at Kong — https://kong.cash/ . Kong is a physical cryptocurrency that looks, feels and works like traditional cash. You can think of it as an ultra-secure, time locked cryptocurrency wallet with a fixed face value — no one can access the token except for the holder of the note after a period of several years. It consists of a secure element and NFC chips mounted on a flexible PCB…

> with a fixed face value So how does a transaction work? Do I exchange a 500 kong note for a 10 kong item and 490 kong worth of notes?

Just like cash.

So if you use a 500 Kong note to someone for a 10 Kong item, they will have to make 490 Kong in change. 4x 100 Kong notes, 1x 50 Kong note and 2x 20 Kong notes...etc.

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