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A Better Qt Because of Open Source and KDE

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Re: A Better Qt Because of Open Source and KDE

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

laughs in gigabytes

You just need to download more ram.

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Re: A Better Qt Because of Open Source and KDE

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It would be good for KDE to get stronger backing, but I've heard RedHat avoids backing KDE and focuses on Gnome, due to aversion¹ to contributor agreements², is that correct in that case? 1. https://opensource.com/article/19/2/cla-problems 2. https://www.qt.io/legal-contribution-agreement-qt

It all goes back to the early days of Gtk vs KDE, when Qt still had non-GPL compatible license.

Red-Hat is the biggest employer of Gtk/GNOME devs, so...

SuSE and Mandrake were historical the biggest ones that cared about KDE.

Re: A Better Qt Because of Open Source and KDE

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A better Qt already exists. It's called Electron.

I'll bite. Define "better" here.

Not a fan of electron at all. But I think it points out the direction for the future of gui. There's a whole generation of new languages (rust, go, dart, D, ...) that wants to get into the gui-space and finding QT and GTK problematic. QT is known for "using every C++ feature", making it less than ideal for bindings. GTK is not very cross platform I think, and is criticized for beeing gnome-centric. Both toolkits are object-oriented, making them a poor fit for any language that is not. Something like mozilla's webrender could be used in a more language agnostic way (declerative, reactive), while having the support required for the gargantuan task of a graphics/toolkit backend.

Re: A Better Qt Because of Open Source and KDE

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post #10
post #3

It would be good for KDE to get stronger backing, but I've heard RedHat avoids backing KDE and focuses on Gnome, due to aversion¹ to contributor agreements², is that correct in that case? 1. https://opensource.com/article/19/2/cla-problems 2. https://www.qt.io/legal-contribution-agreement-qt

At KDE, we don't require signing CLA to contribute, this is a requirement in our manifesto[1]. But contributor can assign their right to the KDE e.V. if they want using a Fiduciary Licensing Agreement[2]. [1]: https://manifesto.kde.org/commitments.html [2]: https://ev.kde.org/rules/fla.php

KDE itself no, but Qt requires one (second link above)?

Ironically, RedHat themselves sometimes make an exception, like the first link mentions:

> We reluctantly sign tolerable upstream project CLAs out of practical necessity.

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