New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

Post by alistairSH » Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 7:20 PM UTC

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The issue is how capitalism works. No one wants to pay a 1000$ for a domestic flight, but that's the only way you're getting personal space. Flights in the past were expensive, but comfortable. It's not a right to have space and affordability.

I'd pay $1000 for a domestic flight with leg room and a slightly wider seat. I flew first class out to San Diego recently and I would have done it on the way home as well but they wanted $2500 more for the same flight the other direction. That's just ridiculous. Flights in the past were never that expensive for the same comfort.

Post by jenkstom » Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 7:41 PM UTC

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Wow, I can’t believe how dismissive most of the comments here are. The idea of adding folding wings to existing seat dimensions could be a huge, huge improvement for sleeping on flights. No, it’s not changing or solving anything else. Yes the model is tiny. No this isn’t solving existing recline issues if you’re 6’5”. If you have incredibly broad shoulders then you might not be able to use the wings but you can still…

I think you are just dismissing the fact that people have genuine grievances, even if they are not only not expressing themselves properly because they probably feel utterly powerless, but also because they likely don't quite understand how their own actions lead to the current situation. Is it not legitimate to point out that they either used an old looking 6 year old girl, photoshopped the heck out of that image, o…

Post by teh_klev » Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 8:17 PM UTC

vanniv wrote: post #440

teh_klev wrote: post #385

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Nowhere in the article does it mention these are specifically for "premium" economy, these seats are, according to the article, supposedly meant for your run-of-the-mill economy cabin.

CNN is just wrong, though. These are being marketed as premium economy seats. https://thepointsguy.com/news/the-future-of-premium-economy/ https://runwaygirlnetwork.com/2019/12/10/wings-out-interspac... CNN got this wrong, and the rest of the major press is citing CNN as the source. But if you look, you can see that these seats are clearly not economy seats -- they're too wide, and they have all the premium economy t…

Post by oh_sigh » Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 8:22 PM UTC

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But the intent isn't there for Amazon to listen to everything you say - which is why hotword detection is done locally on Alexa and only then is an audio stream sent to their servers.

I have a coworker who has Siri enabled on his phone. It regularly wakes up and starts recording seemingly at random. Maybe "always listening" isn't the correct phrasing. "It might be listening at any time" might be better.

Post by notacoward » Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 8:42 PM UTC

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Let's say this adds 10 pounds to each seat times 150-400 seats. No way the airlines would go for it they are trying to cut weight from the planes to scrape every ounce of fuel economy out of the airframe. It is a non-starter. Airlines also have zero incentive to increase passenger comfort because most airlines operate near capacity (all flights full/overbooked) on most routes because of deregulation. You have no alte…

> Airlines also have zero incentive to increase passenger comfort Airlines seem in a constant fight for passenger comfort to me! Some have as many as five cabin tiers, attempting to make as many people as comfortable as their budgets will allow. There's competition to make the most luxurious lounges. Out-fitting of power and WiFi seems to have been effective. Whole new aircraft like the 787 are designed with passenge…