This system is completely convoluted, with the incentives all over the place between merchant, bank, CC processor, consumer. It's the kind of thing that will never change until you go to a different country or start an alternative payment system that is 10x better, because no one has the power or will to displace the existing infrastructure. Consumers don't care because they don't (directly) pay the bill for these be…
What do other countries do?
Retailers Don’t Like Paying the Fees for Apple Card
31–40 of 102 posts
Re: Retailers Don’t Like Paying the Fees for Apple Card
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Chip cards aren't without their problems, also. I've yet to have one last more than 9-10 months before the chip stops working reliably.
I've been running into that a lot... I'm replacing my card once a year because the chip stops working. It's one of the most embarrassing things when your card is declined repeatedly and there are people in line behind you. Or worse you're on a date and your date thinks you're overdrafted.
Re: Retailers Don’t Like Paying the Fees for Apple Card
#33Do any banks or CUs offer rewards programs for debit cards?
Re: Retailers Don’t Like Paying the Fees for Apple Card
#34This system is completely convoluted, with the incentives all over the place between merchant, bank, CC processor, consumer. It's the kind of thing that will never change until you go to a different country or start an alternative payment system that is 10x better, because no one has the power or will to displace the existing infrastructure. Consumers don't care because they don't (directly) pay the bill for these be…
What do other countries do?
Re: Retailers Don’t Like Paying the Fees for Apple Card
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ultimately the problem is with the banks/issuers who refuse to support and require more secure solutions like chip cards, instead of clinging on to the hopelessly outdated standard of authenticating payments with knowledge of a number printed on a card.
Chip cards aren't without their problems, also. I've yet to have one last more than 9-10 months before the chip stops working reliably.
Re: Retailers Don’t Like Paying the Fees for Apple Card
#36This system is completely convoluted, with the incentives all over the place between merchant, bank, CC processor, consumer. It's the kind of thing that will never change until you go to a different country or start an alternative payment system that is 10x better, because no one has the power or will to displace the existing infrastructure. Consumers don't care because they don't (directly) pay the bill for these be…
Re: Retailers Don’t Like Paying the Fees for Apple Card
#37I don't like retailers storing my credit card info in dodgy databases that end up on the dark web. I understand that stores don't want to lose all their profit to interchange fees. That's reasonable. At the same time, I personally wouldn't be so dogmatic about using Apple Pay or an Apple Card if I hadn't had my debit card ganked five times in the last seven years. In other words, they've brought this on themselves, a…
When I was in the US (Nevada and Cali) I was so surprised how many places don’t accept contactless payment. Here in Hungary, even the smallest convenience stores accept it.
The future. It's not in America.
Re: Retailers Don’t Like Paying the Fees for Apple Card
#38> “It’s almost like an arms race of who can offer the most rewards,” says Chris Ligan, vice president for acquisitions at Auric, which has seen use of premium cards climb 7% this year. “The person stuck with the bill is the merchant.” And they pass it on to us.
I've always thought this fee + cashback thing is weird, because the merchants just add it back to the cost of the item. Sure, you may be getting that cost back as cash, but the merchant charges you the same if you don't have the super elite card. So isn't this just a sneaky underhanded way to tax the poor which obviously don't have credit to get the super elite card?
Re: Retailers Don’t Like Paying the Fees for Apple Card
#39This isn't really about Apple Card, it's just about high reward cards in general. The heading is clickbaity to generate more traffic. The tl;dr is: high reward cards (like Apple Card, or any other "premium" card) incur a high transaction fee for the credit card processor, thus they eat into the retailer's profits.
Re: Retailers Don’t Like Paying the Fees for Apple Card
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ultimately the problem is with the banks/issuers who refuse to support and require more secure solutions like chip cards, instead of clinging on to the hopelessly outdated standard of authenticating payments with knowledge of a number printed on a card.
Chip cards aren't without their problems, also. I've yet to have one last more than 9-10 months before the chip stops working reliably.