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Why Kids Love Garbage Trucks

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Re: Why Kids Love Garbage Trucks

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Post by longtom »

rightbyte wrote: post #76
arunix wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen little girls chasing the pigeons on a few occasions, so ... no longer sure about the hunter/gatherer aspect of this.

I guess arcaic females also did hunting. Like wolfs and cats. Mens physical strength is probably from fighting other men not prey?

Nope, hunting was primarily a male task. In 97.6% of 141 societies hunting was done exclusively done by males. In 98% even setting up traps was done by males. Interestingly, cooking was overwhelmingly done by women.

https://sci-hub.se/https://www.jstor.org/stable/3773347

Re: Why Kids Love Garbage Trucks

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Post by jedieaston »

Pigo wrote: post #101
dhshahsndeisjwn wrote: post #96

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Except that many girls are made to feel abnormal for expressing an interest in stereotypically male activities (as are boys in reverse). The key is to acknowledge first that our society is incredibly gendered (and racist) in ways we often oblivious to.

I've never studied parenting across the country, and I acknowledge that there are definitely cultures around the world where women are treated like property, but I've never witnessed a parent enforcing some gender stereotype for toys. It's hard to imagine a parent even caring what toy a kid is playing with, unless they are hurting someone.

Lego used to have to ship a note to parents in the box of sets to make sure they didn't get mad about what toys their kids were playing with: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/11250366/Lego-letter-to-pare...

Re: Why Kids Love Garbage Trucks

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Post by ghostbrainalpha »

AndrewOMartin wrote: post #52

To add my pet theory, it's a attractive to kids because it's an immediately understandable job. "Pick up all the rubbish, put it in the truck, press the button, move on". You can imagine a kid watching the whole routine and feeling like they understand every part of it, the wider context and the minutiae. The classic "what do you want to be when you grow up" responses (Firefighter, Police, Doctor, Chef, etc.) all hav…

That theory does a great job explaining why so many kids say "Astronaut" and so few say "Actuary".

Re: Why Kids Love Garbage Trucks

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Post by arwhatever »

empath75 wrote: post #130
Waterluvian wrote: post #3

In the words of my two year old, "woah! It's so big!" I've learned not to over-analyze and trust what he says.

I took my 2 year old to the safari at animal kingdom and said: "Hey, there's a hippo!" and he said: "Wow, look how big that _rock_ is!" Kids don't know what's unusual to see at age 2.

Once saw a kid at the zoo mesmerized with a chair-sized boulder. Mother kept continually pointing at the lion just a few feet away, beyond some plexiglass: "Look, a lion! Look at the lion, Billy!"

And the dad said, speaking hypothetically on the kid's behalf, "Yeah, but here's a rock!"

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Post by thanatropism »

arwhatever wrote: post #146

I wanted to be a garbage man because the guys ride on the side/outside of the truck. What other reason can there possibly be? :-)

The electricity company technical guys sometimes ride on a truck that has (as best as I can describe it) a snake-like elevating chair. That's so impossibly cool.

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Post by 0-_-0 »

nkrisc wrote: post #73
syngrog66 wrote: post #36

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9 month old baby

So? At 9 months my son had met many other kids and they are very observant at that age, even if you don't notice. Was your kid different? Your comment is not a lot to go off of but I get the sense you haven't raised a kid.

How about newborns?

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/222673203_Sex_Diffe...

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Post by aklemm »

kbutler wrote: post #131
dhshahsndeisjwn wrote: post #95

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I'd have more sympathy for critiques of feminism (and similar policies designed to help minorities) if even basic indices of equality like pay for equal work were fixed, and there wasn't clear evidence of discrimination on grounds of gender in interviewing, police treatment etc.

If you account for education, experience, and hours worked, equal pay for equal work is already here (or the pay gap is reversed for asian women). Education and experience bring it to 98% parity overall, with asian women getting to 102% parity. https://www.payscale.com/data/gender-pay-gap "job market forces and gender preferences in relation to marital status and parenthood could explain almost all of the pay gap. Mo…

Why do men choose to and why are they allowed to do all those things differently? The reason is gender roles, that’s part of the equal pay discussion. Probably the biggest part, in fact.

The “multi-variable” is no answer at all. Each of those variables is part of the discussion.

Seems like everybody has a comical view of the pay gap: a big fat cigar chomping man conspiring with his cronies to set low wages for women. It’s far more broad than that, so please get serious about those variables before trying to blow the whole thing off.

Starting point: how do we better make care work less gendered and pay appropriately?

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