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New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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I like it but how about some other easy random wins that don't effect required space but due increase user experience.

A vertical tray that comes out under the arm rest to prevent "man spreading" of legs & allows both passengers to rest their leg against without awkward leg touching.

Get rid of the reclining seats. They piss off whoever is behind them. It screws with their video & trays. I don't even need to mention the poor person's knees if they're above average height.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

#402

Wow, I can’t believe how dismissive most of the comments here are. The idea of adding folding wings to existing seat dimensions could be a huge, huge improvement for sleeping on flights. No, it’s not changing or solving anything else. Yes the model is tiny. No this isn’t solving existing recline issues if you’re 6’5”. If you have incredibly broad shoulders then you might not be able to use the wings but you can still…

The images shows they reduce the width between a passenger and the arm rest when the majority of people are already cramped in these seats. Really, the model in that picture must be tiny to have that kind of room. So, this may help children sleep on aircraft but the design as shown is useless to me or most other tall adults.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

#403

Wow, I can’t believe how dismissive most of the comments here are. The idea of adding folding wings to existing seat dimensions could be a huge, huge improvement for sleeping on flights. No, it’s not changing or solving anything else. Yes the model is tiny. No this isn’t solving existing recline issues if you’re 6’5”. If you have incredibly broad shoulders then you might not be able to use the wings but you can still…

Agreed! This is my dream seat. I like the aisle because I can get up but sometimes I miss window seats because you have a wall to lean against. This brings the wall to any seat.

I would happily pay a little more for this seat.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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post #402

Wow, I can’t believe how dismissive most of the comments here are. The idea of adding folding wings to existing seat dimensions could be a huge, huge improvement for sleeping on flights. No, it’s not changing or solving anything else. Yes the model is tiny. No this isn’t solving existing recline issues if you’re 6’5”. If you have incredibly broad shoulders then you might not be able to use the wings but you can still…

The images shows they reduce the width between a passenger and the arm rest when the majority of people are already cramped in these seats. Really, the model in that picture must be tiny to have that kind of room. So, this may help children sleep on aircraft but the design as shown is useless to me or most other tall adults.

Only when unfolded. Folded is the same.

And the point is this is for sleeping leaning against a side. You wouldn’t be using the armrests then anyways.

I’m 6’1” and this design looks like a huge improvement to me.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

#405

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the asocial behavior documented in the blog typical of Finland?

The blog is called "depressing Finland" which is kind of a Finland meme. It's certainly played up on the Internet but it's got a kernel of truth. I have a couple of very good friends in Finland and I've visited the country and it's a lovely land filled with lovely people. But it's true they can be aloof to other people at first. My Finnish friend joked that Finnish people don't care about others until you get drunk w…

Germany is that way to a lesser extent. I know my German friends visiting the US find it very odd that people who do not know each other well (or at all) will greet each other when passing by. It seems superficial and fake to them.

To a lesser degree, I felt that way after moving to Southern Californa from the East coast: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cvzm3sZWAAETO_b.jpg:large

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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post #395

Wow, I can’t believe how dismissive most of the comments here are. The idea of adding folding wings to existing seat dimensions could be a huge, huge improvement for sleeping on flights. No, it’s not changing or solving anything else. Yes the model is tiny. No this isn’t solving existing recline issues if you’re 6’5”. If you have incredibly broad shoulders then you might not be able to use the wings but you can still…

Let's say this adds 10 pounds to each seat times 150-400 seats. No way the airlines would go for it they are trying to cut weight from the planes to scrape every ounce of fuel economy out of the airframe. It is a non-starter. Airlines also have zero incentive to increase passenger comfort because most airlines operate near capacity (all flights full/overbooked) on most routes because of deregulation. You have no alte…

> Airlines also have zero incentive to increase passenger comfort

Airlines seem in a constant fight for passenger comfort to me! Some have as many as five cabin tiers, attempting to make as many people as comfortable as their budgets will allow. There's competition to make the most luxurious lounges. Out-fitting of power and WiFi seems to have been effective. Whole new aircraft like the 787 are designed with passenger comfort as a priority.

> In no way am I advocating another 9/11

Well at least you're being moderate then!

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

#408

Wow, I can’t believe how dismissive most of the comments here are. The idea of adding folding wings to existing seat dimensions could be a huge, huge improvement for sleeping on flights. No, it’s not changing or solving anything else. Yes the model is tiny. No this isn’t solving existing recline issues if you’re 6’5”. If you have incredibly broad shoulders then you might not be able to use the wings but you can still…

Some of the statements in the article really weird me out though:

> Who hasn't struggled to sleep on an airplane economy seat, forced to improvise a makeshift pillow out of a rolled up sweater or scarf?

> A new seat design comes with an innovative solution to this inflight issue, using "padded wings" that fold out from behind both sides of the seat back -- allowing both for additional privacy and a cushioned spot to rest heads for some shut-eye.

Train seats have long provided padded headrests and "horns" on the side so your head doesn't move all around while you're sleeping. On some the headrest can even be reconfigured to provide a cradle of sorts.

The "blinkers" effect looks useful, as both a bit of a privacy screen and a way not to e.g. get light in your eye from the bloke across the aisle.

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