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You could, and you'd likely create an evacuation pathway nightmare in the process.
Ignorant question, but: do we actually have at least one (preferably more) documented cases of where the evacuation happened and was successful?
New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy
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Voice control of smart devices is extremely convenient. I can only imagine what a quality of life improvement it is for someone with physical disabilities.
Right, convenient for some, and I empathize with that use case. But why must we all be subjected to Big Brother's unblinking, creepy-as-fuck stare? And why must all the data enabling the convenience be ripped away from my exclusive control and sent back to some centralized store?
Don't buy Alexa? I agree with you with regards to facial recognition, but expanding your views to optional smart home tech seems fairly vindictive.
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So you can communicate without waking up your sleeping infant, turns out. Though phones work for this too.
Stop worrying about waking up the kids with your noise, and they'll soon learn it's normal (even comforting) and sleep right through it.
That probably works great for your children, and I'm very happy for you, but not shouting works a treat for me. If a child slept through shouting that was loud enough in my house to be heard (we have 3 foot thick stone walls) I would be worried about their hearing.
Also, I mean this in the most polite way possible, but unsolicited parenting advice is often not received as well as one might hope.
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#324Looks like a fundamentally acceptable design change, which will probably be white-anted out of deployment on cost, or fashion grounds. I think seating in airlines demands regulation. I don't think we will see change here without it, because unlike Premium Economy and Business, where pricing differentiation justifies the spend (the increase in revenue outweighs the engineering costs significantly: Aircraft would be vi…
I dont see the point of regulation. Do you want to force everyone to pay higher plane tickets, so some people get more comfort? Some people prefer to pay less and survive in economy class.
The problem is that IMO things are slowly getting to the point where it's a medical problem, especially for older people. And the median age of people in the US is slowly ticking upwards. Consider things like Deep-Vein Thrombosis for longer flights: https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/dvt/travel.html.
"Some airlines suggest pulling each knee up toward the chest and holding it there with your hands on your lower leg for 15 seconds, and repeat up to 10 times."
Most modern economy class seats have absolutely no room to do even these limited sorts of movements. And don't even get me started on how bad they are with someone with a disability. Plus, as someone else mentioned, some employers, etc. make you take the lowest cost flight as a matter of policy.
I think in a way this is like healthcare (the analogy is loose, I admit). Sure, some people, maybe even a majority of people can do fine with the unregulated version. But if it is actively dangerous to a smaller segment of the population, regulation will help bring it more in line with normalcy for that smaller segment.
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#325I really liked seats arrangement in Helsinki public buses. Not sure how popular are they. But basic idea is that in a paired seat you have one seat shifted a bit to back. Because of that if there are two people sitting they don't rub their shoulders to one another and it feels much more spacious. Only picture that i could find : https://depressingfinland.tumblr.com/post/59672293951/234937...
The Caparo T1 car uses about the same arrangement to fit two seats in a 1.5-seater space: https://i.imgur.com/NGKYiXO.jpg
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Can you? No matter how many damn Google Assistant settings I disable in how many fractal menus, it STILL "helpfully" pops up if I say out loud "ok google"! Like, "heyy I noticed you're trying to talk to me though I'm disabled, would you like to enable me?" Stop spying on me you piece of malware.
What kind of Android do you have? Are you sure you went through all the settings? And, still, I can install LineageOS or other privacy-respecting systems on my phone. We don't have any custom firmware for an Echo or Alexa yet (to the best of my knowledge.)
The number of phones actually supported by lineageOS is a rounding error, unless you count unofficial incomplete builds by random untrusted people on some forum.
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#329Idk what economy cabins these people are sitting in but those seats look at least business-sized to me. No US airline will be sticking something that big in economy. And facial-recog? Airlines are moving away from putting anything in the seat-backs at all and now you wanna put expensive camera tech in there?
They'll find out some way to sell/use the data and the cameras will pay for themselves.
Besides, if airlines are ripping out TVs, relatively low capital cost, from backseats of very expensive aircraft I doubt its because of the cost of the TVs.
Maybe the TVs need hefty wiring for the power. Maybe they break often with kids punching them. But the cameras might not have that many problems, and therefore be cheap (besides, with a a wide angle lens, one can deal with many passengers)
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#330> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…
It sounds like the author is misunderstanding a bit. This isn't facial recognition, it's facial detection. Distinguishing a sleeping face and an awake face doesn't require the face to be identified. Also, I'd be shocked if there aren't already cameras covering every square inch of modern airplane cabins. Also also, you can't get on a plane without showing ID and boarding pass with a seat number, so it's not like they…
I was flying through Schiphol airport and they had facial recognition entering the gate. It scanned my face and then brought up my passport.
Facial recognition is already here and in some capacity being used for flight travel.